floyd_z Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I'm starting to believe the theory that this is just money laundering. If you look at the feedback, the same buyer buys a block of items, then a different buyer buys another block of items. It seems like that would be pretty tedious, but it's pretty clever. Could also be shill bidding to increase feedback rating. Dominic_ and Mourning Wood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowty Dollaz Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I'm starting to believe the theory that this is just money laundering. If you look at the feedback, the same buyer buys a block of items, then a different buyer buys another block of items. It seems like that would be pretty tedious, but it's pretty clever. Could also be shill bidding to increase feedback rating. It makes sense, or it's not improbable. Meth is a big deal in the South as there are a lot of rural areas in which to make the drug without any suspicion, and it's nearby to Knoxville which has the higher crime rates of the area. It seems unlikely that some dude who describes his ebay account with "Me and my wife have been married 8 years. We use e-bay to make a little money on the side. We do our best to be honest and make any buying or selling transaction easy" Would be telling the truth when they are selling items supposedly signed by a lot of well known artists to the same buyers over and over. When one of those buyers is totally "private" on eBay. It would be a really easy way to create a source of false revenue when the IRS comes a knocking wondering how some couple living in rural TN is able to generate such an income without having legitimate jobs. Assuming the theory, of course. Mourning Wood and Dominic_ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skacel Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 He's baaaaaaaack. http://m.ebay.com/sch/huskyrecords1986/m.html?isRefine=true&&rmvSB=true&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F711-53200-19255-0%252F1%253Ftype%253D3%2526campId%253D5337013156%2526toolId%253D10001%2526customId%253Dijkm8pefx20027jz00004%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fsch%25252Fhuskyrecords1986%25252Fm.html%25253F%2526srcrot%253D711-53200-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D968754026380&rmvSB=true&ul_ref=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F711-53200-19255-0%2F1%3Ftype%3D3%26campId%3D5337013156%26toolId%3D10001%26customId%3Dijkm8pefx20027jz00004%26mpre%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fsch%252Fhuskyrecords1986%252Fm.html%253F%26srcrot%3D711-53200-19255-0%26rvr_id%3D968754026380&_mwBanner=1 Man, that link reminds me of the time I came home from the pub and dropped $$$ on some 'signed' slipknot merch and a fender squire 'signed' by Deftones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billya Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Man, that link reminds me of the time I came home from the pub and dropped $$$ on some 'signed' slipknot merch and a fender squire 'signed' by Deftones I have seen people have bands sign pickguards. I would imagine that they put those on cheaper guitars to sell. That could totally be legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skacel Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I have seen people have bands sign pickguards. I would imagine that they put those on cheaper guitars to sell. That could totally be legit. Yeah, I kept the pickguard - on the off chance that it is genuine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl addict Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Who signed it? I have a Slipknot LP signed Corey, Clown #1 and #3. Had it signed in person. When there's a meet and greet, it's usually those 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl_ben Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 The guy isn't selling the records as autographed, so while yes he is trying to rip folks off...he isn't doing anything "wrong" by the rules so little eBay can do about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museummouth Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 The guy isn't selling the records as autographed, so while yes he is trying to rip folks off...he isn't doing anything "wrong" by the rules so little eBay can do about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl addict Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 He is well aware that it's not just "some writing on it", he is committing fraud. I'm sure if eBay searches a bit deeper they will find other issues with his account as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajhall04 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 He's baaaaaaaack. http://m.ebay.com/sch/huskyrecords1986/m.html?isRefine=true&&rmvSB=true&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F711-53200-19255-0%252F1%253Ftype%253D3%2526campId%253D5337013156%2526toolId%253D10001%2526customId%253Dijkm8pefx20027jz00004%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fsch%25252Fhuskyrecords1986%25252Fm.html%25253F%2526srcrot%253D711-53200-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D968754026380&rmvSB=true&ul_ref=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F711-53200-19255-0%2F1%3Ftype%3D3%26campId%3D5337013156%26toolId%3D10001%26customId%3Dijkm8pefx20027jz00004%26mpre%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fsch%252Fhuskyrecords1986%252Fm.html%253F%26srcrot%3D711-53200-19255-0%26rvr_id%3D968754026380&_mwBanner=1 People are incredibly stupid... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron666monkey Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I'm out of the loop on this signed cds / record seller. What's the story on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl addict Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Counterfeit signatures. Read one of his auctions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown pleasures Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 If the theory that he's money laundering is correct, why be so sneaky with the "some writing on it" line? The listings are so calculated - the wording, the selection of artists, the way he never trips up and offers something that was issued posthumously with a supposed signature on it - I just can't help but think it's someone who's well aware of what he's doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron666monkey Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Lol, I wasn't paying attention to the "w/ some writing on the cover" comment. I will say, whoever is doing the forged signatures, they do a pretty good job and is about to fleece A LOT of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vool Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 The guy isn't selling the records as autographed, so while yes he is trying to rip folks off...he isn't doing anything "wrong" by the rules so little eBay can do about it. Classic stl_ben lampwick, Brock N Roll, mmhmm and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRINCE Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I sent an email to my Ebay rep about it, I'll let you know what they say.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown pleasures Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I sent an email to my Ebay rep about it, I'll let you know what they say.. "Dear __________ Thanks for contacting eBay! Did you know you can list 99 auctions this January for just 1 penny a piece?? Thanks for being a valued member of the eBay community!" cambionic and somethingvinyl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRINCE Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 "Dear __________ Thanks for contacting eBay! Did you know you can list 99 auctions this January for just 1 penny a piece?? Thanks for being a valued member of the eBay community!" LOL I have a direct connection with MSO, I'm no ordinary eBay seller sweetheart.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl_ben Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Classic stl_ben Classic me? I'm not the one doing this. I was simply stating his listings are vague enough that he has skirting getting in trouble. Do I think it's right hell no. Do I think someone dumb enough to buy a record "wrote on" by John Lennon that didn't even come out till after he died may be up for an eBay style Darwin award, yes. allenh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl_ben Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 LOL I have a direction connection with MSO, I'm no ordinary eBay seller sweetheart.. How much do you have to flip to get connections at eBay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRINCE Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 How much do you have to flip to get connections at eBay? Roughly 15-25Million+ a year to get on Ebay's radar... but you should already know this BobbyHill, lampwick, Hairy Potter and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl_ben Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Roughly 25Million+ a year to get on Ebay's radar... but you should already know this I should? I sell around $200 a month on ebay, so think I have a ways to go before I hit their radar. (I like that I get a down vote for $200 a month, but not the guy selling $2 Million a month) [yes I know talking about down votes only leads to more down votes] Sidney Crosley and mmach013 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I struggled to believe what I was seeing when I first saw this, but I expect ebay are quite happy with the commission they are making. He is well aware that it's not just "some writing on it", he is committing fraud. I'm sure if eBay searches a bit deeper they will find other issues with his account as well. Ignorance is no defence in the eyes of the law so yes strictly speaking they are committing fraud but it would depend on who could afford the better lawyer I expect. And yes it is very calculating, well thought out and I like the money laundering theory as the blocks of feedback are very suspicious, they could of course be a shop somewhere buying up blocks of stuff to sell on with fake accreditation which would make it even more fraudulent. stl_ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Classic me? I'm not the one doing this. I was simply stating his listings are vague enough that he has skirting getting in trouble. Do I think it's right hell no. Do I think someone dumb enough to buy a record "wrote on" by John Lennon that didn't even come out till after he died may be up for an eBay style Darwin award, yes. I got where you were coming from ben and yes you're right they are doing enough to not break ebay's rules and it doesn't make it any less shitty Anyone that does actually fall for these auctions though I would worry would have trouble with breathing, if it wasn't a natural reaction that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryantark Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I'm not 100% convinced, but most of these were signed with the same marker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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