steventangent Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 The record label can make more copies of the CD if need be, because of, say, a sudden spike in demand because people heard the band for the first time on a car commercial. So whatever. Different kind of plastic. Different kind of paper. Whatever. Who cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deletedunknown Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Whatever. Who cares. Then why are you trying so hard to defend your position? I love what this thread became because so much of it is a mute point. The pressing happened and is in peoples' hands. If Sony really is in breach of contract, hum can sue and we will probably never know if they do either way. I wish hum would have just let Robo put this out long ago, but then I guess today's entertainment wouldn't have happened then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steventangent Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Fucking irony, how does that work? Lets just establish what exactly "my position" is here: 1. Nobody knows whether it's really a contract violation or not (legally speaking) 2. It's ironic that most of the people throwing a fit about this probably downloaded the album illegally anyway (morally speaking) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickcook19941 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I demand a poll. Lets not forget about me guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nervehold Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 People bitch that it took MBV 20 years to put out a new album but thats not long enough for HUM to decide if they want to repress it themselves. Oh and now they are unwarping 20 year old records. The only thing they are upset is that they werent in on the cash grab. What I'm saying is no one knows the reason why they couldn't repress the thing. Some bands have to pay a shitload of money just to reclaim ownership of their own music to be pressed somewhere else. No one knows the details of the contract either. If Hum is saying it's illegal for them to repress this without the band's consent, there is probably some weight behind it. Who knows though, maybe it is just sour grapes. Legal or not though, the band should have been made aware of this deal and should be paid accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 They should be paid by Sony. They are the ones who sold the rights and that is who their contract is with Hum doesnt have a contract with SRC When I get my SRC copy and listen to it, I will hardly care if anyone made any money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 in defense of SRC, the licensing process is very cloudy, when i first started dealing with majors there was a period where i was told their lawyers were clearing everything.. naively i thought this meant all parties involved. I did run into a situation where an album i had licensed no longer was owned by the label, and had i not had the foresight to contact the band involved before pressing it would have been a huge financial disaster. But also the music business is a business, if a band didn't want their musics presentation to be out of their hands, they shouldn't have signed over the rights. Being on a major label is essentially work for hire, if i create something at my job the company has full ownership of that and can do whatever they want with it, and i won't have a message board up in arms about it right? throwgncpr, youspinmeround, firefoxUSSR and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtesyandgoodwill Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 When I saw Hum play KC in November 2011 they said there would be a full length out in 2012. Sooooo, who knows really what the guys in Hum are doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefoxUSSR Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 The full length is in the mail.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 When I saw Hum play KC in November 2011 they said there would be a full length out in 2012. Sooooo, who knows really what the guys in Hum are doing? They are unwarping records. Thought that was clear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefoxUSSR Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 They are unwarping records. Thought that was clear My money's on this becomes a thing like Iodine 'finding' copies of YFW. Except those weren't warped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinji Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I'm just tryna get Downward is Heavenward for a decent price... David Loyd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steventangent Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 All this drama might just mean a Downward repress won't happen. I have an OG, but it'd be nice to have a newer one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinji Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 All this drama might just mean a Downward repress won't happen. I have an OG, but it'd be nice to have a newer one. Lucky bastard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steventangent Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Probably the only record I ever significantly overpaid for, but it came with the Puppets 7" and was only like $76 after shipping. It was a cheer-myself-up gift. Shinji 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindovermatter Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 If Robo had repressed this, I would be so happy! They would be priced reasonably and I could sleep at night knowing that I supported an excellent label. Oh well. I will still try to grab one of these because I would rather give my money directly to the band. pablod85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steventangent Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 ...on the other hand, maybe this will spur the band into seeking a pressing of Downward themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefoxUSSR Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I'm curious why the band didn't want ROBO to do a repress. Seems sensible to me, morally I think Matt should have worked a deal instead of selling refurbished records. I look at it like this: If you had an ebay seller with a vintage "unwarped record" or a new high quality pressing- which one would you choose? Perhaps its the audiophile in me, I like that the SRC pressing is made from 24-bit masters and manufactured to modern spec. Buying the unwarped edition with new art I could only buy as a wall-hanging piece of nostalgia/art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedlee Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 it's ridiculous how often this forum takes speculation for facts. have you tried asking the label if it's the warped stock before jumping to conclusions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefwahoo Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 it's ridiculous how often this forum takes speculation for facts. have you tried asking the label if it's the warped stock before jumping to conclusions? Read the thread, it's been established that it is the warped stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steventangent Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 It's not as if there was ever, say, a statement from the band member/label owner, explaining exactly where the records came from. Stop speculating, guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collectivemike Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 it's ridiculous how often this forum takes speculation for facts. have you tried asking the label if it's the warped stock before jumping to conclusions? The LEAST you can do when chastising people here for jumping to conclusions is to at least finish reading through the thread before jumping to your conclusion. youspinmeround 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedlee Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 wow, i've been following this thread and completely missed that interview post and thought you were basing it on those earlier posts in the thread. carry on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noalarmplanet Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 The LEAST you can do when chastising people here for jumping to conclusions is to at least finish reading through the thread before jumping to your conclusion. deletedunknown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothingnatural Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 "Loose one turn" cracks me up every time I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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