stuffsux00 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 i don't recall seeing anything on Ebay in regards to anything like this (i don't think they would expect this to go down either way), but i'm posting this so people can poke holes in this. or, i'd like to know if this is already happening. yes, yes, i know you don't always have to send as a gift when you are paying through Paypal. assuming you both have Ebay accounts; say you want to trade with someone or buy something from someone on here, but they have limited posts or no feedback. Ebay feedback could mean nothing to you without the protection. couldn't you use Ebay as a way to assure delivery? for buying - coordinate and they put the item up at whatever price with an OBO and you go to that auction and offer your agreed upon price. that way you know you have the backing and not just Ebay feedback. for trading - this is where i couldn't think of that great of an idea. i was going to suggest that both you and trader put items up with OBO and make an offer of $0.01 and both accept. of course, i realize that if you don't get the item you only get your $0.01 back. i know you can make a legit offer on what you think it's worth and "mark as paid", but if you do that too many times i think it flags Ebay. just wondering. let me know what you think. or destroy it. either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Perfect! Cause scams are never perpetrated on Ebay! nivek87 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Serious answer, we have a feedback system here that seems to be pretty good. Ebay would charge fees. And bottom line, anyone that I distrusted enough to do this I just wouldn't deal with. I'm not going after /5 rare variants. Anything I want will eventually be sold by someone I do trust and doesn't throw up flags. You just get a feeling when something is fishy. stuffsux00 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffsux00 Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 that's why we should start now!! i realize the irony in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 The mods and management are in the process of developing some additional protection to keep scammers out of here. I'd wait and see what happens. But I've been buying / selling / trading 5 years, never had an issue. Just need to use your head and be defensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imkylejackson Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Or we could all have a gentleman's agreement to stop being assholes. smash2pieces, rudeboydh and stuffsux00 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 bottom line, anyone that I distrusted enough to do this I just wouldn't deal with. This sums up everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbruise Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Or we could all have a gentleman's agreement to stop being assholes. Right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blanchardoswald Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Or we could all have a gentleman's agreement to stop being assholes. smash2pieces and isavedlatin54 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradedOnACurve Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Why is this on the Everything Else Board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbruise Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Because it's soon to be full of memes and gifs. dreamover, tittus, Shitty Rambo and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Why is this on the Everything Else Board? That might be this thread's only redeeming quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfiend Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Because it's soon to be full of memes and gifs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideny Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 reused it just cause Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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abovetheearth Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 stuffsux00 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffsux00 Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 Why is this on the Everything Else Board? not actually selling or buying. i figured i'd get some insight to something i was wondering. look at me, taking the internet seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
controlthebleeding Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 i just realized i have no positive feedback on this new forum, yet i had tons of trades and sales in the past forum. i wonder if anyone would trust me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steventangent Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 i just realized i have no positive feedback on this new forum, yet i had tons of trades and sales in the past forum. i wonder if anyone would trust me? me either. I got ripped off a few times on the old board, too. but I had some successful trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingvinyl Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I turned down someone the other day who was willing to buy a $45 record from me but only had a couple posts. I took "too long" according to him which was a huge red flag. He claimed to buy it from someone else. The period of time was no joke less than 24 hours when we agreed on a price and I had time to do some research about him, and ask other users he supposedly bought from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideny Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I turned down someone the other day who was willing to buy a $45 record from me but only had a couple posts. I took "too long" according to him which was a huge red flag. He claimed to buy it from someone else. The period of time was no joke less than 24 hours when we agreed on a price and I had time to do some research about him, and ask other users he supposedly bought from. wouldn't he send the money before you ship though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingvinyl Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Yes, of course. But, if he didn't send payment as a gift (he wouldn't) then he could say he never received it and keep the record and the money. Paypal is very good to the buyer and even if you get tracking, there's a chance if he makes a claim, I could be out of money/record. Plus, if you send an item to an unconfirmed address, they can side with the buyer (though this seems to be less rare). I've heard of people losing money because they didn't have proof beyond tracking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideny Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Yes, of course. But, if he didn't send payment as a gift (he wouldn't) then he could say he never received it and keep the record and the money. Paypal is very good to the buyer and even if you get tracking, there's a chance if he makes a claim, I could be out of money/record. Plus, if you send an item to an unconfirmed address, they can side with the buyer (though this seems to be less rare). I've heard of people losing money because they didn't have proof beyond tracking. True, I pretty much joined the old boards to get my grubby mitts on tdagarim and travis took the chance to sell it to me, pretty sure I paid via gift though, it's been awhile hah. I guess what I'm saying is not everyone new is trying to scam people but I definitely see how he threw you off there with a couple different things. I don't even remember what he sold it to me for but I think it was in the ballpark of $40 to $50. It's still the only thing I've ever bought on these boards, but anyways, you get what I'm sayin. Nobody ever seems to have what I'm looking for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnstypls Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Yes, of course. But, if he didn't send payment as a gift (he wouldn't) then he could say he never received it and keep the record and the money. Paypal is very good to the buyer and even if you get tracking, there's a chance if he makes a claim, I could be out of money/record. Plus, if you send an item to an unconfirmed address, they can side with the buyer (though this seems to be less rare). I've heard of people losing money because they didn't have proof beyond tracking. with expensive items I usually do the old signature confirmation. somethingvinyl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Yes we are working on methods to keep riff-raff off the Sales board but what it will always really come down to is common sense and better judgement. I personally would never send a Paypal payment as a gift and instead just throw in a couple extra coins to cover the seller costs. Be safe guys, just keep the Team America logic in mind: If you don't let us fuck this asshole, we're going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in shit. Or something. nivek87, thebiglebowski and stuffsux00 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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