don't trust a trader/seller? couldn't you do this?

[rudeboydh]

All my sales/buys on here have gone flawlessly and been great.  No complaints.  I guess I'm just lucky.  That and I make sure to pack my shit well.

[stuffsux00]

i understand and agree with a lot of what people are saying , but i've been ripped off before. fortunately, not on this board. despite the one person who took the time to give me feedback, i've put my faith in a few people on here. most seemed, and were, trustworthy. still, when i'm putting money down, it can be a bit nerve wrecking regardless. i wondered if any of this was plausible. thanks for the responses! 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

this thread is straight up

 

[GradedOnACurve]

i just realized i have no positive feedback on this new forum, yet i had tons of trades and sales in the past forum. i wonder if anyone would trust me? 

 

You as well as other people who waste time on here (myself included) are always around and because of that I think would garner some more trust than people who aren't here as much.

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

post count total >>>>>>> positive feedback IMO

[jerseydave77]

This is going into the Sales Thread today (with better formatting):

 

 

Vinyl Collective Best Practices Policy for Dealing with
Identified and Confirmed Scammers

 

One of the worst things to happen to an online community
like ours is to have someone betray the trust of the other members by
intentionally defrauding a buyer/seller/trader. We are setting a policy that we
hope will protect the Vinyl Collective Community to the best extent possible
and set a precedent that Scammers will not be tolerated.

 

• 
  First, what qualifies as an Offense worthy of
  Banning:

• You
  Sell an item and never deliver it. Further, you let your communication lapse to
  the point no other conclusion can be reached except that you have intentionally
  defrauded another Member.

• You
  buy an item and then later you file a PayPal claim to get your money back even
  though you received the item. It is unacceptable to use PayPal policy to
  defraud a VC Member.

• You
  Trade for an item but don’t live up to your end of the deal by delivering the
  item.

• You
  Sell or Trade for an item and what you send is either intentionally the wrong
  item or so grossly damaged that it can only be interpreted that you were
  attempting to rip-off the other party.

 

All of the above instances have occurred. In the past we
have not IP Blocked identified scammers and many have come back with new user
names to prey on the good nature of our community. This will now stop.

 

The issue that is the trickiest is when to ban and block a
user. We want our members to have every opportunity to resolve these matters
and keep lines of communication open. Now, knowing that action will be taken we
have a very simple suggestion:

 

Going forward, before
you agree to a final deal, please exchange email addresses and confirm they
work. Once a member is IP Blocked this will be your only means of communication
with them if you still retain hopes of connecting with them.

 

We will not IP Block an identified Scammer instantly, we
will leave a 30 day window open for things to be resolved via VC. After this
considerable amount of time it would be negligent for us to allow someone
confirmed as a scammer to have the opportunity to prey on another user.

 

Course of Action:

1. 
   If you have been ripped off, report it to a Mod.
   While WE CANNOT HELP IN ANY WAY TO GET BACK PROPERTY OR MONEY, we ask you to
   suggest a course of action.

1. 
   Mod will contact and allow the identified user a
   chance to respond and set things right.

1. 
   If after 30 days from initial complaint it is
   confirmed this was a scam we will now IP Block the User so they cannot open a
   new account.

1. 
   Each case and the appropriate action will be
   left to the discretion of the Mod Team and can be assessed independently.

 

Finally, take note that from here on out, ripping off
another member will come down with Zero Tolerance. Regardless if you have 10
posts or 10,000 – if you take advantage of the Trust of this Community and do
not set things right then you will be removed.

 

/jerseydave

[jerseydave77]

We have more User Mods now to monitor the bullshit and I think we've seen it getting taken on. This is a positive. There will be scammers but they won't be around here for long. 

[xfedupx]

Dave - serious question, will this count towards labels that post here as well? There's been quite a few times over the years that I've preordered something, record was never made, never got money back blah blah blah. I haven't seen it happen recently, but just in case it does, I was wondering...

 

Also, I love that plan

[jerseydave77]

If a Label takes money and never produces a record but wants to continue to promote themselves then that is a discussion to be had. Beyond RJ/Virgil I haven't seen that issue on here. 

 

This isn't exactly an organic policy but it can be improved upon. We aren't opening it to discussion per se but suggestions will be considered and if we feel it is in fact an improvement then it can be implemented. 

We just want it known upfront that there will now be zero tolerance on scammers. There is more monitoring going on and it makes something like this easier to handle. 

[One Hundred Fifty-Two]

[One Hundred Fifty-Two]

If a Label takes money and never produces a record but wants to continue to promote themselves then that is a discussion to be had. Beyond RJ/Virgil I haven't seen that issue on here. 

 

This isn't exactly an organic policy but it can be improved upon. We aren't opening it to discussion per se but suggestions will be considered and if we feel it is in fact an improvement then it can be implemented. 

We just want it known upfront that there will now be zero tolerance on scammers. There is more monitoring going on and it makes something like this easier to handle. 

 

 

The guy that did The Soviettes record. I think he also ripped someone off of a guitar.