Hennessey Jonze Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I'm quite new to the world of vinyl and have limited knowledge about the mechanics of turntables in general. Here's the deal. This is my second LP-60 in less than a month and it seems either I'm not having the best of luck in purchasing a reasonably priced, entry-level turntable, or there is a defect with several units of this model. There is a very noticeable dip at a certain point of each revolution. I'm concerned for my records as my needle is dancing over each groove in a wave-like motion, swaying back and forth, yet providing what sounds like accurate pitch, tone, and speed. I'm betting most entry-level purchasers of these units are so enchanted with their new medium that things like this aren't noticed or addressed. I guess I'm partially guilty. I'm not finding tons of complaints about what I am experiencing with these 2 units, but I'm definitely not imagining this. I tried re-adjusting the belt, checking for debris (despite its newness), and every other conceivable adjustment and inspection. This is obviously not the desired performance of this machine, so I guess I'm forced to either chance the early degradation of my vinyl collection, or upgrade to an LP-120. I think I'll go with the latter as It seems to possess no redeeming quality, for me at least. Lesson learned. Has anyone else experienced complications with this model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biodigitaljazz Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 My model just came yesterday. I've played two albums on it. Both my table and my buddy's table, both the LP60, do this and in both our cases, and yours, the music sounds fine. But I don't feel as if it would damage your records significantly since the music sounds good, it sounds like it's not digging in real hard. But I'm pretty new too. Everyone on these boards wants to damn to hell the people who buy this table because it it's not a $400 table. It's like $85, and I just figure you get what you pay for. Obviously yes, the 120 is better, but only if you can afford it. But as for the records, I don't feel like it's significantly damaging. SleepingWithMotion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdventureIsOutThere Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 damn to hell Oh yeah? RowBearToe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jase Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Question, you've had two turntables by the same company turn out to be really shit quality, yet you want to give them a third chance at giving you a poor quality, albeit more expensive table. Why? Why not choose one of the plethora of other brands out there, known for quality instead of a plastic piece of garbage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefinalsound Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 OP is striving for creepy sig of the week. I think he wins. I don't feel as if it would damage your records significantly since the music sounds good, it sounds like it's not digging in real hard. But I'm pretty new too. Everyone on these boards wants to damn to hell the people who buy this table because it it's not a $400 table. It's like $85, and I just figure you get what you pay for. Obviously yes, the 120 is better, but only if you can afford it. But as for the records, I don't feel like it's significantly damaging. Remind me in the future to never buy records from you. Opinions like this make me want to always buy new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefinalsound Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I can appreciate that $400 is a tough number to deal with but seriously, this is not an inexpensive hobby. How much performance do you really expect from a turntable that costs as much as four records? If you spend six months saving, and not buy like 15 records in that time you will find yourself able to afford a table which will last you many years, sound vastly superior, and give you the peace of mind that you're not ruining your expensive collection of records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Just plain crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetruthaboutheaven21 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I haven't had a problem with mine at all and I've had it for almost 5 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I would hope something you bought 5 months ago wouldn't have a flaw already. Just because it works, doesn't mean its not crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetruthaboutheaven21 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 lol it sounds great to me. Maybe because I have expensive Denon speakers and a high powered Denon receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Oh boy. swemoll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannibal Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 expensive Denon speakers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinch Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 And don't forget about: a high powered Denon receiver. michaelmanfredi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetruthaboutheaven21 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 And don't forget about: my speakers were 800 for the pair and the receiver was about 1200 I believe I also have Polk tower speakers I can connect to it which are expensive also. 2000$ for a setup is damn expensive to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetruthaboutheaven21 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Some people are audio snobs on here I guess haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 my speakers were 800 for the pair and the receiver was about 1200 I believe I also have Polk tower speakers I can connect to it which are expensive also. 2000$ for a setup is damn expensive to me What Denon speakers were $800? And what receiver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearchuck Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 No one is looking down on your speakers or receiver, but the inference that a great / expensive setup can make a crappy turntable sound good is laughable. If anything, it will reveal your turntable's deficiencies even more. swemoll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 wait you spent 2000 on speakers and a receiver and 85 bucks on a turntable? MattBastosLol and SleepingWithMotion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Yeh... I'm intrigued to hear his reply on model numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swemoll Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Besides, I'm pretty sure we all know that a price tag does not equal quality... And bearchuck is totally right. Source first! There's nothing an amplifier or speakers can do to make up for lost information at the source. firefoxUSSR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipsterasfolk Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 $2,000.....in what year? I'm sure my friend's vintage $4 garage sale set up TT was once expensive too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaizada Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 The least table I would suggest to a person really wanting to get into analog, would be entry level models from Rega, Music Hall or Pro-Ject. These companies generally develop excellent turntable technologies for their top level setups and trickle it down towards the lower end of the lineup. If you were a good friend of mine, I wouldn't let you buy a table till you were able to purchase a VPI Traveller at the very least You can't enjoy the analog journey when you have to battle cheap build quality etc. The equipment should get out of the way and do what it's designed to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbrh2001 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 The least table I would suggest to a person really wanting to get into analog, would be entry level models from Rega, Music Hall or Pro-Ject. These companies generally develop excellent turntable technologies for their top level setups and trickle it down towards the lower end of the lineup. If you were a good friend of mine, I wouldn't let you buy a table till you were able to purchase a VPI Traveller at the very least You can't enjoy the analog journey when you have to battle cheap build quality etc. The equipment should get out of the way and do what it's designed to do. That's hilarious. Like people are supposed to drop $1000 right off the bat on a turntable to begin a new potential hobby. That MIGHT be a good idea if you knew you were going to be big into the hobby. Hardly the sound advice to be giving a beginner though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaizada Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 That's hilarious. Like people are supposed to drop $1000 right off the bat on a turntable to begin a new potential hobby. That MIGHT be a good idea if you knew you were going to be big into the hobby. Hardly the sound advice to be giving a beginner though. The lowest offerings from: Rega = RP1 = $445 http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/Rega-Turntables Pro-Ject = Essential = $299 http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/Pro-Ject-Turntables MusicHall = MMF 2.2 = $449 http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/Music-Hall-Turntables That is the minimum outlay to get into the hobby at a somewhat decent level. Hardly laughable advice...below these price points, you are just struggling and spinning wheels like the OP. You're dealing with quality issues, bad sound and just FIGHTING the format instead of enjoying it. EDIT: Most good friends of mine would definitely put out $1000 for a table if they really were getting into this hobby. swemoll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbrh2001 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 The lowest offerings from: Rega = RP1 = $445 http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/Rega-Turntables Pro-Ject = Essential = $299 http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/Pro-Ject-Turntables MusicHall = MMF 2.2 = $449 http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/Music-Hall-Turntables That is the minimum outlay to get into the hobby at a somewhat decent level. Hardly laughable advice...below these price points, you are just struggling and spinning wheels like the OP. You're dealing with quality issues, bad sound and just FIGHTING the format instead of enjoying it. I was talking about the point you made about not letting a friend go for anything less than a VPI Traveler. $1000 is way too much money to be spending on a turntable if you're a beginner. I agree with your posted minimum outlay's above though. Assuming new of course. Though I would replace the Essential with the Carbon if your other 2 offerings are also near $400. shaizada 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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