shaizada Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I was talking about the point you made about not letting a friend go for anything less than a VPI Traveler. $1000 is way too much money to be spending on a turntable if you're a beginner. I agree with your posted minimum outlay's above though. Assuming new of course. Though I would replace the Essential with the Carbon if your other 2 offerings are also near $400. I maintain that the minimum turntable I would suggest to a "good" friend of mine would be a VPI traveller or that level of table. Being a "beginner" to me is a person who has little experience with analog. It has nothing to do with monetary means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbrh2001 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I maintain that the minimum turntable I would suggest to a "good" friend of mine would be a VPI traveller or that level of table. Being a "beginner" to me is a person who has little experience with analog. It has nothing to do with monetary means. Guess it would depend how into vinyl your "good" friend is? I've got some good friends who don't even own turntables. Maybe I'm being literal here and I do know what you mean if I kinda understand what you're implying here? Thing is most people have a budget they need to work with. If we didn't, everyone would own those fancy $300k turntables. Not only that, but when you go ahead and save up for that VPI Traveler, now you also need to start saving up for the amp/speakers/preamp/headphones/cart/etc... to matchup with your VPI. The ol' saying you're only as strong as your weakest link... Now we're talking about forking over $3-4k total. Stuff adds up if you've gotta start the whole process at once. Especially since you've already entered into the high-end territory with your turntable purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaizada Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 The great thing about that VPI traveller is that it is a source that would easily grow with whatever you put it up with. As your amp/speakers/preamp/headphones/cart/etc. you can be assured that your source is up to it and will reveal those upgrades. I'm from the camp of "source first" as you simply can't recover anything you lose at that point even if you had the absolute best preamp/amp in the world. Yes, the system is only as strong as your weakest link, but can only be as good as the source feeding it. The very minute you move from the source, EVERYTHING down the chain is about minimizing loss of signal (the reason we buy high quality cables/equipment etc.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefoxUSSR Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Some people are audio snobs on here I guess haha Thought that was the whole point of having a record collection... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbrh2001 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 The great thing about that VPI traveller is that it is a source that would easily grow with whatever you put it up with. As your amp/speakers/preamp/headphones/cart/etc. you can be assured that your source is up to it and will reveal those upgrades. I'm from the camp of "source first" as you simply can't recover anything you lose at that point even if you had the absolute best preamp/amp in the world. Yes, the system is only as strong as your weakest link, but can only be as good as the source feeding it. The very minute you move from the source, EVERYTHING down the chain is about minimizing loss of signal (the reason we buy high quality cables/equipment etc.). None of that would matter though if a beginner who purchased the Traveler right from the beginning, stops listening to their vinyl after a short while due to its inconveniences, for example. I agree that you start with your turntable first when upgrading your setup but you still need to know you're somebody that enjoys vinyl in the first place. Otherwise its a waste of a lot of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannibal Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 What part of "'good' friend" don't you understand? He's not referring to the guy who stumbled onto the "vinyl" section at urban outfitters and bought "el camino" and now wants to play it. LOL @ autocorrect of v i n y l s shaizada 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Dude likes to argue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearchuck Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Dude likes to argue. He does not. You're wrong! ajxd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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