LEUCISTIC Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Need some help guys with setup. All brand new from box. Project carbon esprit, marantz pm5005 and roth oli ra1. I can hear sound from the needle but not from the speakers!!! What am I doing wrong??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEUCISTIC Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 ignore me I was being an idiot once again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tardcore Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 bet he forgot to select A/B speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEUCISTIC Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 bet he forgot to select A/B speakers. nail head and hit haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEUCISTIC Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I have loved my first weekend back with vinyl many hours passed and alot of rum was drunk. But I need to bin the static heaven mat that came with the thing as it is completely pants. If I buy a cork mat that is 1.5mm thick would that be a good direct replacement (no adjustments needed)??? The project cork-it mat is listed as 1.5mm thick but I can get one off ebay (non project) for a third of the price. or would neoprene be better? as I have an acrylic platter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 If you have an acrylic platter you don't use a mat at all, it defeats the object of having an acrylic platter in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEUCISTIC Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Woops another rookie mistake by me then. I assumed wrongly because they provided one it should be used. Thank you for clearing that up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Nope, No idea why they'd supply one so you've done nothing wrong using it as it's supplied but there is absolutely no need for it and I suspect it's there because it's part of the packing list when they assemble them, makes you wonder a bit how many other people do this and then say can't see what all the fuss is about with these acrylic platters. One of the major upsides of an acrylic platter is that it reduces static build up during play by a huge amount. You should also find it sounds a bit different without the mat as well, I won't put words in your mouth and tell what you should hear but let me know if you hear a difference without the matt and what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEUCISTIC Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I am hoping for a sound improvement, the static that the felt produces was crazy. I will let you know how I get on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbo72203 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Hey guys, how robust are styluses? I just got my Sunlight Ascending 7", and when I put the needle on, I guess I didn't place it far enough in, even though I placed it where the run-in grooves are, and my needle skimmed off onto my felt mat and skipped along that for a second. Upon visual inspection, I can't seem to notice any defects or changes. But I did play the record, and it sounded kind of trashy. Now, that could be the production of the song itself; it sounded like a home-recorded hardcore song production. Just trashy and not full and clear. The needle is a Numark DJ needle I got at Guitar Center for $20, i don't know the model. My turntable is a Stanton T.62, so if you guys could recommend a good replacement cartridge/needle to get, that would be cool too. I have absolutely no fucking clue where to start. Something in the $30-40 range would be great; my setup isn't super super amazing (I need a new amp because mine has a lot noise when you turn it up) but I'm thinking a good needle is always something you need regardless of your setup. Anyway, sorry for the rambling post... just not sure what to do. I'm scared to play any other records in case my needle is defective now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 If it looks all in line and the tip is still attached then chances are it's fine but try it on something you know well but are not too worried about and see what it sounds like then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbo72203 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 yeah I've got my copy of "Amongst The Catacombs of Nephren-Ka" by Nile spinning right now and it sounds fine. Must be the release itself that sucks. Do you guys have any suggestions for needles/cartridges for a Stanton T.62? I'd like to get something nice, but I honestly have no clue where to start and all the research I've tried to do never turns up any conclusive results. I do know that Stanton's cartridge only fits their own stylus ports. At least none of the Shure ones fit that I tried at Guitar Center (there aren't any good vinyl places in Albany with a selection of these things to try pairing). Also, would you guys say that a receiver upgrade should be done first, to improve sound quality? I'm happy with my speakers for now, and my BBE phono preamp, and my turntable is good for now (I want a Technics at some point) but when I turn my stereo up, there is lots of signal noise that comes out of the speakers when I turn it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I'd save up for a new table honesty. Those straight tonearms are not meant for listening, more scratching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I'd save up for a new table honesty. Those straight tonearms are not meant for listening, more scratching. I'd 2nd that, it's only straight arms with straight headshells though that get used on DJ decks like the Stantons that are the problem, HiFi straight arms have the headshells angled in at 18 degrees for proper tracking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Sorry, meant to say the straight headshell too. Gumbo, your best bet is too upgrade at this point, we don't want all your post-rock getting destroyed by poor tracking . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEUCISTIC Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Allenh removing the felt has made a big difference to my ears already, static lost. You were 100% correct and my ears are thanking you. Its made more of a difference than I would have thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannibal Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Allenh removing the felt has made a big difference to my ears already, static lost. You were 100% correct and my ears are thanking you. Its made more of a difference than I would have thought Good to hear. Allen is a nice guy. Me on the other hand, I couldn't help but laugh at the idea of putting a thin felt mat on an acrylic platter, negating the benefits of the platter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Allenh removing the felt has made a big difference to my ears already, static lost. You were 100% correct and my ears are thanking you. Its made more of a difference than I would have thought Thought you might Good to hear. Allen is a nice guy. Me on the other hand, I couldn't help but laugh at the idea of putting a thin felt mat on an acrylic platter, negating the benefits of the platter. Nice possibly but it didn't stop me having a chuckle either, Assuming this is a new table with an acrylic platter the bit I find funniest is that Project would put the felt mat in there in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEUCISTIC Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Yeah completely brand new, this was a complete head fist moment haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbo72203 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Sorry, meant to say the straight headshell too. Gumbo, your best bet is too upgrade at this point, we don't want all your post-rock getting destroyed by poor tracking . So even though my cartridge is angled in, it still affects the tracking? The tone-arm on this is straight, yeah, but the headshell has these grooves where the cartridge is held in place by screws, and you offset the screws from each other so that the cartridge is at an angle. But I don't think it quite gets to the 18 degrees that the other ones do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinch Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 The thing here is that the tonearm is also shorter, from the specs that I could find it's about 4-5 centimeters shorter than other straight tonearms, meaning the cartridge angle must be different, and even set up perfectly it will still result in a much higher tracking anomaly than usual. In short, spending any amount of money trying to get more out of that table is pretty much: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Unfortunately even if it was the right length you would never be able to get it to track properly because it will never angle in enough and to get it to angle in even close then the overhang would be off so basically Slinch has the correct visual representation for it. These tables are made to be cheap copies of the straight arm battle DJ tables where cuing accuracy is far more important for mixing than outright sound quality, trackability or record life for that matter, the problem is they are cheap so Stanton can shift a lot to budding bedroom DJ's who then get bored because this mixing shit is quite a bit harder than they thought and sell them on for peanuts. Don't get me wrong apart from the arm problem the basic table is fine but it's not easy to change the arm and even if you did it wouldn't make it any more valuable sadly, so try and find a failed bedroom DJ that bought tables with angled arms then you've got a much better basis for a usable table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbo72203 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 stanton has a curved tone arm model, I may just go with that. I like Technics stuff though, but I don't have any place local to check them out. Guitar Center is really my only option around here, that I know of. (Albany, NY). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Heart Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 yeah I've got my copy of "Amongst The Catacombs of Nephren-Ka" by Nile spinning right now and it sounds fine. Must be the release itself that sucks. Do you guys have any suggestions for needles/cartridges for a Stanton T.62? I'd like to get something nice, but I honestly have no clue where to start and all the research I've tried to do never turns up any conclusive results. Also, would you guys say that a receiver upgrade should be done first, to improve sound quality? I'm happy with my speakers for now, and my BBE phono preamp, and my turntable is good for now (I want a Technics at some point) but when I turn my stereo up, there is lots of signal noise that comes out of the speakers when I turn it up. I'd save up for a new table honesty. Those straight tonearms are not meant for listening, more scratching. I third this. I'm surprised you're using a DJ table considering all the post rock / post metal you listen to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tardcore Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 stanton has a curved tone arm model, I may just go with that. I like Technics stuff though, but I don't have any place local to check them out. Guitar Center is really my only option around here, that I know of. (Albany, NY). Another Stanton is a waste of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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