brennanisarealboy Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Posted this same question on reddit, and was told it's an "outgassing" issue. I have Worship and Tribute by Glassjaw on vinyl and it seems the plastic insert has melted onto the vinyl leaving a thin residue that results in thick white noise when I pop it onto my turntable. It is only on the side that the plastic was touching; the side that the paperboard was touching is pristine. Record and sleeve (hard to show in a picture, it looks a little blotchy in areas): http://imgur.com/a/i4GUy Any idea how to fix this? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorSelf Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 In for the same problem. I bought it from another VCer and he said it was NM. Turns out only Side 2 is NM while the the side that was touching the PVC sleeve is just shot to shit. I had read this was a specific problem with the packaging but I would have preferred if he let me know beforehand. Didnt bother me that much though cause this is one of my favorite records of all time and I feel like there are only few people out there who would store it outside of the sleeve to avoid this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenanigans Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 In for the same problem. I bought it from another VCer and he said it was NM. Turns out only Side 2 is NM while the the side that was touching the PVC sleeve is just shot to shit. I had read this was a specific problem with the packaging but I would have preferred if he let me know beforehand. Didnt bother me that much though cause this is one of my favorite records of all time and I feel like there are only few people out there who would store it outside of the sleeve to avoid this issue. He probably didn't know and rated it NM since he never played it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorSelf Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 He probably didn't know and rated it NM since he never played it. No because I said something to him when I got it and got a "oh yeah forgot to mention that". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brennanisarealboy Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 No because I said something to him when I got it and got a "oh yeah forgot to mention that". What a dick. I feel bad for you, the guy I bought mine from essentially said the same thing but I had gotten the album for about $18 so I decided to just hold onto it. Out of the 1000 or so of these that were pressed (assuming you have the same white pressing that I do) I'm sure many others had the issue like you said and SOMEONE has to have fixed it. Hypothetically it's two different materials and one should be able to be separated from it.... or maybe I'm too optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorSelf Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 What a dick. I feel bad for you, the guy I bought mine from essentially said the same thing but I had gotten the album for about $18 so I decided to just hold onto it. Out of the 1000 or so of these that were pressed (assuming you have the same white pressing that I do) I'm sure many others had the issue like you said and SOMEONE has to have fixed it. Hypothetically it's two different materials and one should be able to be separated from it.... or maybe I'm too optimistic. Its all good because its not like I paid anything like ebay prices and honestly, I prefer the second half of the album anyway. But yeah hopefully SOMEONE has been able to fix it, otherwise Im going to be on the lookout for a black copy pretty soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konk Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Maybe a weaker solution? http://coins.about.com/od/caringforcoins/ht/pvc_damage.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnstypls Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I had this problem with mine and it was intolerable so I sold it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedlee Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 did these affected records not have dust sleeves? i'm worried about my records being affected by the heat even further now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brennanisarealboy Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 did these affected records not have dust sleeves? i'm worried about my records being affected by the heat even further now The issue with these records is that the packaging had no dust sleeve at all. It had a paperboard insert on one side of the record and on the other side a clear plastic film which left residue on that side of the record. My pictures in my intial post should show what I mean. Most albums aren't packaged like this so you shouldn't have much to worry about as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedlee Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 The issue with these records is that the packaging had no dust sleeve at all. It had a paperboard insert on one side of the record and on the other side a clear plastic film which left residue on that side of the record. My pictures in my intial post should show what I mean. Most albums aren't packaged like this so you shouldn't have much to worry about as far as I know. ah, I see. I was on mobile and couldn't see a picture. I got you now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrom92 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Probably doesn't have to do anything with outgassing, but if anything would fix this issue it's woodglue. Try Titebond II, report back with results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindovermatter Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 This thread reminded me that I haven't spun my copy of this in a while...and it is also fucked. Will try wood glue ASAP - if anyone has any other success stories, please share! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stranaspank Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Yeah, this made me check mine too. Also fucked. What a bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickcook19941 Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Wood glue works amazing with any record. I personally use Elmer's as it is slightly easier to come by but nonetheless, works great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipsterasfolk Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 draino and steel wool works a charm tml-7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 those heavy PVC sleeves are the worst. Not only does shit like this happen, but they crack and split incredibly easy. I always throw them out. So glad we went in on those custom covers for the O'Brother record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindovermatter Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 The problem isn't the pic disc sleeve, but rather the clear PVC insert that they used for the artwork. The record doesn't even touch the sleeve itself. LAME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirFrancis Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 http://www.sleevecityusa.com/diskeeper-1-5-round-bottom-lp-sleeves-pack-of-50-p/312ncir.htm Keep your record in this inner sleeve to keep the PVC from outgassing on the the record. I use one on my Worship & Tribute, and it works great. It can be a little annoying getting it to fit though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewlucas Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 So no fix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drds89 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Maybe a weaker solution? http://coins.about.com/od/caringforcoins/ht/pvc_damage.htm Acetone works great on removing PVC green slime on coins that is hasn't eaten into yet, and without changing the patina. (lifetime hobbyist) Tried it on slimed vinyl = ruined vinyl. Already ruined anyways, so nothing to lose (couple of new coasters after cutting/sanding. Wood glue on slimed records? I didn't try it so I can't say it doesn't work, but I'm skeptical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewlucas Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Everybody is so willing to use wood glue to clean their records with wood glue but for some reason people don't want to see if it removes the outgassing. I would try it but I've never done it and I don't have any glue at all. Somebody just try it so we can rule it out as a fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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