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Bottom line is I feel like crap every single day and I'm trying to better myself by way in many ways, including my diet.  My question here about a vegan lifestyle is whether it is doable with having the issue with soy.

 

It is. Soy products are not necessary to maintain a good vegan diet, but it won't be easy to have that similar meal with your boyfriend that you mentioned. 

 

I'm sure you've already found this, but if not...

http://www.theglutenfreevegan.com/recipes/

 

Obviously, it doesn't wholly apply to your needs, but you can skim through the recipes to get an idea of what your meals can look like (which look delicious).

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Sure it's do able. It would just take planning/effort if you wanted to ensure a completely balanced diet. But I mean 90% of carnivores aren't eating a balanced diet, so it really comes down to what will work for your lifestyle and stomach.

Sometimes when I have people that are overwhelmed with being diagnosed celiacs, and having egg/milk allergies as well, we write out a list of all the foods they can eat.

Have you ever thought of going to a GI specialist?

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Thank you for that link! I have bookmarked some recipe sites, but that one looks like its better than anything I've seen so far.  Yeah I could definitely go through that and see what is/isn't on the bad thyroid list.  I could probably even substitute if I wanted to.

 

I am definitely going to do some more research before I make a decision, but I'm seriously considering making the switch.

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Sure it's do able. It would just take planning/effort if you wanted to ensure a completely balanced diet. But I mean 90% of carnivores aren't eating a balanced diet, so it really comes down to what will work for your lifestyle and stomach.

Sometimes when I have people that are overwhelmed with being diagnosed celiacs, and having egg/milk allergies as well, we write out a list of all the foods they can eat.

Have you ever thought of going to a GI specialist?

That's a very good point about carnivores.  I want to do this right for sure.  I loveeee making lists so I think I'll start a food diary with all of the things I can and should be eating.

 

No, I haven't thought about going to a GI doctor.  I haven't had any stomach issues lately.  Do you think it would be a good idea for me to go to one?

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I think you can probably make a vegan diet work within your restrictions.  I try not to eat an excessive amount of soy and I would most likely be able to cut it out completely if I needed to.  Except for maybe soy, nothing on your list would make it much more difficult.  You still have plenty of fruit and vegetable options.  I think your proteins being limited might be a little monotonous, but it's by no means impossible.  I say start simple, ease into it and see how things go.  There's no real harm in trying, right?

 

Good luck!  If you need any recommendations for vegan recipe sites, let me know.  I can point you in the right direction and you can tailor them to your needs.

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I'd be interested to read why broccoli is not good for someone with your condition. Not saying its impossible, but it is really the first time I've ever heard someone say it was bad for anyone. It's like 30 calories, a ton if vitamins, and fiber. Kinda the cornerstones of healthy eating for most people.

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I think you can probably make a vegan diet work within your restrictions.  I try not to eat an excessive amount of soy and I would most likely be able to cut it out completely if I needed to.  Except for maybe soy, nothing on your list would make it much more difficult.  You still have plenty of fruit and vegetable options.  I think your proteins being limited might be a little monotonous, but it's by no means impossible.  I say start simple, ease into it and see how things go.  There's no real harm in trying, right?

 

Good luck!  If you need any recommendations for vegan recipe sites, let me know.  I can point you in the right direction and you can tailor them to your needs.

I understand what you mean about the proteins becoming monotonous, but I am willing to try it out.  Thanks so much for your reply, I will certainly shoot you a message if I have any questions.=]

 

I'd be interested to read why broccoli is not good for someone with your condition. Not saying its impossible, but it is really the first time I've ever heard someone say it was bad for anyone. It's like 30 calories, a ton if vitamins, and fiber. Kinda the cornerstones of healthy eating for most people.

Broccoli is among the group of foods that are considered "Goitrogens."  Essentially, they take part in enlarging already-troubled thyroids, creating goiters.  They also tend to absorb the T3/T4 hormones needed for a normal functioning thyroid, so they basically they help slow down thyroid function.  Which is the last thing I need.  Most importantly, foods like broccoli can absorb the iodine that the body (and ultimately the thyroid) needs to function properly.

 

This is from an article I've read on about.com by Mary Shomon:

Goitrogens are naturally-occuring substances found in various foods, and they have the ability to cause a goiter -- an enlargement of the thyroid gland.

 

In addition to promoting goiter formation, goitrogenic foods can act like antithyroid drugs, slowing down the thyroid, and ultimately causing hypothyroidism, an underactive thyroid.

 

Goitrogens are able to disrupt normal thyroid function by inhibiting the body’s ability to use iodine, block the process by which iodine becomes the thyroid hormones thyroxine (T4) and triiodothyronine (T3), inhibit the actual secretion of thyroid hormone, and disrupt the peripheral conversion of T4 to T3.

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Man that sucks. It's hard enough to eat healthy without having someone taking what are usually considered extremely healthy foods and crossing them off the list.

 

I would read this. Just my high-level opinion, but it seems like a much better fit for your condition than veggie (and it probably has no place in the veggie thread but whatever):

 

http://josepharcita.blogspot.com/2011/03/guide-to-ketosis.html

 

Seems like either way you go, avocados like a mo-fo.

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Man that sucks. It's hard enough to eat healthy without having someone taking what are usually considered extremely healthy foods and crossing them off the list.

 

I would read this. Just my high-level opinion, but it seems like a much better fit for your condition than veggie (and it probably has no place in the veggie thread but whatever):

 

http://josepharcita.blogspot.com/2011/03/guide-to-ketosis.html

 

Seems like either way you go, avocados like a mo-fo.

Wow I have never heard of Ketosis before, but it sounds like something that would really benefit me.  The calculations are a little overwhelming, but I figured out everything with the exception of the body fat (can't do that while at work, haha) and it seems like I would have to actually eat more than I am currently.  It's crazy to see things like creamy salad dressings ranked higher on the keto scale than vinaigrette dressings since I've been so used to a low fat diet due to my cholesterol. Thanks a lot for this link, Lebowski.  I have a lot of research to do haha.

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Wow I have never heard of Ketosis before, but it sounds like something that would really benefit me.  The calculations are a little overwhelming, but I figured out everything with the exception of the body fat (can't do that while at work, haha) and it seems like I would have to actually eat more than I am currently.  It's crazy to see things like creamy salad dressings ranked higher on the keto scale than vinaigrette dressings since I've been so used to a low fat diet due to my cholesterol. Thanks a lot for this link, Lebowski.  I have a lot of research to do haha.

 

No prob. You've probably heard of it before, just as the Atkin's diet. Ketosis is more of a medical term while Atkin's, paleo, etc are kind of like variants or spinoffs. Good luck.

 

And body fat is something that is easy to ball park but very hard to accurately measure. The pic below should give you the ballpark (spoilered for being slightly NSFW but nothing too bad).

 

body-fat-percentage-women-1.jpg

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Seems like either way you go, avocados like a mo-fo.

 

I think this should apply to every diet.

 

Just wanted to post in this thread and say I went vegan back in march when I said I would and haven't looked back. So glad I made the change!

 

Agreed.  That's how I felt when I stopped eating meat and how I feel about being vegan now.

 

www.vegan-chops.com is a website my buddy just started, rough site, just getting started, but man, he loves to cook and share so keep an eye on it for recipes!

 

I am going to make that pizza he has on there, it looks fucking delicious!

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No, I haven't thought about going to a GI doctor. I haven't had any stomach issues lately. Do you think it would be a good idea for me to go to one?

I just thought when you mentioned feeling crappy it might be a digestive thing. But if it's not stomach issues then no. Also, the whole goitrogenic foods thing. It came from studies that were done in the 1920s and 1950s. But as early as the 1960s attempts to recreate these studies began failing. The medical/health benefits of these "goitrogenic foods" far outweigh any potential "anti thyroid properties" that more recent (last 50 years) medical studies have failed to even identify as having any statistically significant effect. Health gurus, bloggers, media can easily make a case for/against any foods. I would do your research (I can link the studies I'm talking about if you want) think about what you like to eat, what doesn't cause unpleasant side effects and go from there.

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I just thought when you mentioned feeling crappy it might be a digestive thing. But if it's not stomach issues then no. Also, the whole goitrogenic foods thing. It came from studies that were done in the 1920s and 1950s. But as early as the 1960s attempts to recreate these studies began failing. The medical/health benefits of these "goitrogenic foods" far outweigh any potential "anti thyroid properties" that more recent (last 50 years) medical studies have failed to even identify as having any statistically significant effect. Health gurus, bloggers, media can easily make a case for/against any foods. I would do your research (I can link the studies I'm talking about if you want) think about what you like to eat, what doesn't cause unpleasant side effects and go from there.

Oooh, no, the feeling crappy thing has to deal with the thyroid.  If you could send me some more information about the goitrogenic foods and the studies done, that would be really helpful.  I do know that I have felt better since omitting the foods on that list, and if I break down and go for an egg white omelette with spinach, I'm feeling it for a day or two afterward.  Same goes for soy.

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