xadamhudsonx Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 also the coverup of the Ledoux scene was fucking amazing. especially as they were narrating their story over what happened, fucking so good. They made a point in ep 4 to talk about all of Rust's undercover work. He mentioned he spent 4 years in Narco undercover when the average recommended time was less than a year (per Hart's conversation with him about it). So maybe this whole alcoholic bartender who's given up on his past life is just an incredibly elaborate, self imposed undercover assignment to find out who these "big people" are that are involved. Also, I need to go back and rewatch the first 5 episodes again I think. I completely missed the stuff with Hart's kids (except the scene with the drawing. I recall that scene but didn't put much weight on what she said). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youmightbewrong Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 This show's better the second time around just like The Sixth Sense was. You miss so much the first time. Snaggle Von Swift 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrangerwithcandy Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I also get the feeling that Rust is doing some crazy undercover shit. Maybe the falling out between him and Marty was all part of an act? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewberinger Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 as for future seasons, what actors or actresses would you like to see in the main roles? I'd kill for Jon Hamm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewberinger Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I also get the feeling that Rust is doing some crazy undercover shit. Maybe the falling out between him and Marty was all part of an act? Rust is definitely doing some under cover shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3arl Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 as for future seasons, what actors or actresses would you like to see in the main roles? I'd kill for Jon Hamm. Laura Dern. She was awesome in Enlightened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I got caught up last night on the last two episodes. Damn. A lot of stuff to take in and speculate and create theories on. Most of what has been going through my head has already been mentioned here. Which is great that a few of us have the same line of thought. I'm on the fence about Chole having slept with Maggie. He seems to abhor human contact as he has said that life is a disease and his whole diatribe about people and whatnot. It makes me question then why he's really trying then with that girlfriend we see him having. Her name escapes me right now. It's almost like he's trying to force a personal connection a la Dexter. Just a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaggle Von Swift Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I'm on the fence about Chole having slept with Maggie. He seems to abhor human contact as he has said that life is a disease and his whole diatribe about people and whatnot. It makes me question then why he's really trying then with that girlfriend we see him having. Her name escapes me right now. It's almost like he's trying to force a personal connection a la Dexter. I agree with both of these thoughts. If Cohle slept with Maggie.. I don't think Hart would be wearing the wedding ring in the investigation, and I don't think that would simply have been a "falling out" that nobody knew more detail on. We learned how great of liars they both are, I think the falling out is either something Cohle does to get seperation to get into the Cults undercover, or is something they have planned together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippielauryn Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 We learned how great of liars they both are, I think the falling out is either something Cohle does to get seperation to get into the Cults undercover, or is something they have planned together. I'm leaning towards this as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youmightbewrong Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I don't think it's Cohle's cup of tea to have an affair. Not after how upset he was when he found out Hart was doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Powerwatched the 5 episodes in 2 days. Seems like there are some theories in here I think are out there and with little justification. There's no way Cohle slept with Maggie and just nothing was said about it. Maybe it could still happen, but they have gone pretty far from showing a connection between those two over the last two episodes. I didn't see anything too important in the lawnmower scene. I think they just had a couple lines in there to answer "why are you cutting the lawn off a school that is demolished." I think he was just there to set the stage with the school. Anyone notice that when they were talking to the black preacher, they zoomed in on the cross that appeared to have at one time had Christ on it but it seemed to be removed? They zoomed in on it for a couple seconds. Feel pretty confident Marty is going to lose one of his kids. It will be caused by the rebel but might be the normal one (say, the rebel invites the wrong guy over and things go wrong). I think that will also be the cause of the rift. Maybe Cohle pulls Marty away on the case and he blames him for not being there? If they hadn't said Tuttle had died, he would be a prime suspect. Maybe one of the preachers they interviewed, one of the police leaders is going to be the leader of this cult (with Tuttle being a member) and the murderer. That's my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniegwilliams Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 This weeks episode was so intense that I had to bite my nails. In expecting a character is being set up and will come out the hero in the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thievesdont Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Not sure what everyone else is thinking BUT: I think Rust and Marty's fall out goes one or two ways. They either faked it with Rust going deep undercover, or they didn't and they end up working together again. Either way, they'll both end up back on the case in some form and I think what leads to the initial argument (which leads to the possible faux fall out) has something to do with Marty's daughter. Rust is showing himself to see who comes after him and how. His storage locker definitely has evidence of the case inside, something he's not willing to get up. This is a guy who can perform completely under the influence of narcotics. I think the whole drunk thing is just a cover for what he's really been doing. He's the TRUE DETECTIVE. The picture in the first (or second?) episode with five men around her, Marty's daughter has 5 men around her doll/banging the doll, and Rust with five of his can-men surrounding another. Sacrifice is a big theme here and either his daughter witnessed it or was involved in it, hence her being so fucked up later on in life. There's more to Marty talking about everything being right under his nose regarding his family when they're showing how fucked up she is. If that imagery wasn't there then I could see him genuinely talking about not realizing how important family is. Pretty cool how the "black stars" literally framed Rust in the last shot of the last episode. No way he's the killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiatorhums Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Finally got caught up on this. I've somehow managed to stay a week behind since the first episode. Easily the best show on TV right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I don't think anything traumatic happened to the daughter as a young girl. She strayed off the path of normal, and Marty wasn't there to correct her. It started small (sexual drawings and the dolls), and grew into something bigger later. I guess the key for me is that they have done nothing with a 3rd timeline. There's the case and the present, and the story is about how they meet. I can't seem them diving back into when Marty's kids are young again later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaggle Von Swift Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I went back and watched the first 3 episodes. I am putting my money on Marty's father in law being involved somehow, and I also do think something happened between him and Marty's daughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylekrische Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 ahh good theory, grandpa diddler. He also lived on a fucking lake so wealthy powerful man... Whole speech about how kids today are shit and need to be taught a lesson Snaggle Von Swift 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I can't stop mulling over everything I've seen and read. I like the one that was linked about rust setting himself up for crucifixion. I just don't think that person presented enough resolve. Also thinking that while he's being interrogated, that he's not guilty of anything- yet. Where he will have his name cleared, and then finish off everything with a display similar to the original murder, where every last person behind everything is mutilated, posed. And I also can't escape the thought of something supernatural happening. Maybe it's because of his hallucinations. Maybe it's because I haven't seen a show garner this much speculation since Lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaggle Von Swift Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 One thing to keep in mind also, from a legal standpoint as soon as he opened a can of beer during that interrogation.. anything he said would be inadmissible in a court. Surprised the detectives allowed it if they really think it is him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3arl Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 One thing to keep in mind also, from a legal standpoint as soon as he opened a can of beer during that interrogation.. anything he said would be inadmissible in a court. Surprised the detectives allowed it if they really think it is him. good catch, i didn't even think of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circuit bored records Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 Out of all the things I've read online, the one thing I can't stop thinking about is how when Rust asks Marty if he's ever hunted before while they're tracking Ledeoux, he answers that he's killed a 10 point buck recently. The antlers that are on the girl from the first episode are from a 10 point buck. entendu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horrorbusiness138 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I finally watched the 4th episode which was pretty intense. 1 more to go. This show seems like it's just revving up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaggle Von Swift Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Out of all the things I've read online, the one thing I can't stop thinking about is how when Rust asks Marty if he's ever hunted before while they're tracking Ledeoux, he answers that he's killed a 10 point buck recently. The antlers that are on the girl from the first episode are from a 10 point buck. Pretty sure the Sheriff that they went to talk to that blew off the amber alerts had a 10 point buck on the wall as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhook Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 The thing that confused me when they are leaving the cook house with the 2 children. You see an ambulance and cop cars coming. No one saw Ginger all tied up in Cohles backseat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaggle Von Swift Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 The thing that confused me when they are leaving the cook house with the 2 children. You see an ambulance and cop cars coming. No one saw Ginger all tied up in Cohles backseat? Along the same lines, after the shootout scene where Cohle and Ginger get picked up by Marty and Marty speeds off. A cop car drives right by them, that cop doesn't think anything of it and just keeps on driving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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