Mike Hauben

I know, I didnt realize all this was all squashed, sorry for bringing it back up!

 

Your a little behind on this. It was clear comms between us & ETR were lost along the way sometime last year. We as a band never discussed anything about ETR's project, for the info was never relayed to us or even followed up on. This is why it was such a surprise when it released the other day.
& why wouldn't we deserve free copies? Any record of ours pressed by other labels has always given the band free copies for the collection. It's just a nice jester. I'm not going to pay for my own music. The amount of heart we put into making it I think we deserve at least a copy for each member. But that's just me, the 1 of 5 guys who pulled his hair out for 3weeks while recording it.
As for as my knowledge we didn't ask him to bail on production. & our "tweets" were never intended to stir shit. Merely to let people know we had no part in its production & ours will come with "extras" for the 10yr. I really don't see how that stirs things up, actually yes I do. Misinterpretations of what we said somehow turned into "bashing ETR", or "telling people not to buy it". We never did any of that.

Regardless it's still cool to see it in vinyl form. I think ETR did a good job. I'm not mad at ETR one bit, he beat us to the punch fair & square.
 

It seems like you're just escalating something that has already been discuss at nauseum. Don't you know this is a cat .gif thread now?

haha. I didnt until a few minutes ago actually. I will find some good ones.

Awesome first post completely unbiased friend of Ross.

 

Just a guy who is into the scene and thinks small businesses shouldnt get blamed for shit thats out of their control.

Just the fact that you call other labels "competitors" is symptomatic of a mindset so incredibly out of step with the spirit of independent music that you should have your "this is a one man operation, please support the little guy, I do it for the love" card revoked forever.

 Thats kind of a dumb statement, you clearly don't own a business. Someone that does the same thing as you and could get an opportunity instead of you means they're a competitor. Its totally possible to run a business and make smart business decisions while also doing it for the love.

You know whats really stupid? A band giving PERMISSION and their blessing for a label to do something.

 

Then the label spends THOUSANDS of dollars setting it up and pressing it, etc.

 

Then the band stirs shit, acting as if they didnt give the OK, and then not understanding why Ross/ETR couldn't just bail out on the project without losing thousands of dollars.

 

THEN THEY ASK FOR SOME FREE COPIES. Really? ETR's release isn't cool but you want some free copies?

 

 

Look, anyone with any business background, or just plain common sense, can understand why ETR couldn't just bail out on this halfway through the pressing, when the band's manager even apologized for not getting back to him.

 

Additionally, its completely legal and legit. Ross didn't EVEN HAVE TO reach out to the band, but he did out of respect. If you know anything about ETR's history, they don't press things if the band is not cool with it, ever. They've gotton permission from labels who own all the rights in the past, but turned the pressing down because the band wasn't giving approval. So the band can't even act as if they didn't give Ross the OK to begin with because ETR has never, ever done that to a band.