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I use Popsike and eBay all the time. I also completely agree with your first statement, because that's exactly how I buy and sell records. I'm not saying a set table with a value of records, though there are plenty out there. (but if anything, at least a list would set a relative value) The content would be up for the users to decide. That's the whole point. A lot of you are taking the wrong angle towards this. Again, the whole idea is that it would just be a space where things could be possible. The idea was never to replace anything or compete with another business. If anything, I was just wondering whether it would be worth my time to write anymore or continue paying hosting fees. And to me, if people are reading anything on the website, it's worth it.

I can't tell you how many garage sales, etc. I've been to with buckets and buckets of records. It takes a lot of effort and knowledge to search through all of them. Before I started collecting, I went to many websites to figure out what was worth paying money for.

First of all, if you care at all, then you care. Nobody is making you tally up the total value of your record collection so you can sit on it like a miser, but it's helpful to know the value of something if you want to sell it. I think that's one big "DUH." So the question is, wouldn't a wiki make that a little easier? What's the website you always go to when you want to look something up? I can almost guarantee it's Wikipedia. In my experience, it can be difficult to find an easy to read website or price guide, etc. Now imagine if Wikipedia had everything useful regarding record collecting written into it. One search on Wikipedia and you instantly know what your record is worth. It would be that, with a different domain name... a little less support, and a smaller, more directed community.

I just looked that up... Unless you mean the Hell's Kitchen restaurant, that's a brilliant idea to sell worthless records to hipsters . Interesting video of members holding up VG copies of "Elton John's Greatest Hits."

Certainly they're not a great investment if you buy them at face value. But if you go into a warehouse and look around... If you know what to search for, you can find great items. If not, you might as well be in any other useless pile of paper and plastic. There is no scheme.. The formatting is innate in the wiki--it's the same as Wikipedia. There is no reason here... only personal opinion and prejudice against any new ideas. Again, I'm not presenting this as a genius idea... just something new.

If you have never looked at a price guide, or anything of that matter, I might consider believing you. There are different types of record collecting for sure. Even on these discs themselves, there are advertisements to "Complete your collection." Back then, you could obviously order records from a catalog for a few dollars... now you have to go out and seek them... Records are no longer the main outlet for audio sales, and they are becoming rare. This in turn creates value. Maybe you don't care about the value of your records, but consider this: One record you own, but don't particularly enjoy, is worth $1,000. Now you have no idea about this, so you trade it to another collector for a worthless record. If you had known the value of that record, you could have sold it with proceeds to buy many other recordings. Sure, not everything is about value. But value is created based on the desires of the market. NM records are worth more than P records--they also sound better. Record collecting is a mixmatch of collectors who appreciate a record's sonic quality as well as those who appreciate their rarity, appearance, etc. It is an inescapable fact. Records are not knick knacks meant to sit on a shelf--but even there, the purpose for the value attached to these items is their created value. Collectibles are not innately valuable, but gain the value that we, as collectors, place on them.

Some classical records are very collectible... some are absolutely worthless. For a majority of labels and pressings, people will pay you to take them away. The reason some labels are more collectible is because of the sonic quality of the pressing. Classical was just an example... but there are classical records that daily go for hundreds to thousands of dollars. High-end audio listeners prefer audiophile pressings and purchase them for top dollar. The reason for collect-ability is supply/demand... I am confused about why this is a new concept on a record collectors' forum. What exactly does "everyone here" collect? I am really surprised, again, how hostile you few are. Makes you wonder what people said about the startup for Discogs... or even this site. "Really? A forum for record collectors? Don't be ridiculous."

Nobody is trying you to make you leave Discogs... But can you, from the information available in Discogs, tell me the most collectible UK record label for classical records?

It's a little ironic that you cringe at the idea of a record collectors' wiki, but advocate using Wikipedia. It's not a definition of classical records, it's an explanation of what makes certain classical records valuable, etc. The article title is "Collecting Classical Records" and it delves into detail about the different labels, etc. That's the whole point... it's like Wikipedia but FOR record collectors. It was just an idea... I'm not starting a company, edging out Discogs, or trying to profit and make millions--just starting a space where maybe something will happen. I am seriously trying to understand why everyone here is so hostile to this idea. Isn't Wikipedia itself proof enough of concept? There are thousands of articles, and yet it's not a jumbled, uninterpretable junk site. It's probably one of the most useful websites on the internet. Almost any search you make for a definition is directed to Wikipedia. So the purpose here is to apply this same thinking to a smaller, more specialized niche.

That's weird, it works for me. I don't think you're being discouraging. I was sure I'd be met with a lot of this kind of stuff. In reality, it was just an idea. And if it turns out to be a good one, maybe it's worth pursuing. Yes, there are plenty of websites, but the point is to compile them all into one area, where anyone can edit and add their own tips. That's the purpose of wikipedia--it's just for everything, not records. In a forum, yes there are tips and tricks, but you have to sort through disorganized information for what you're looking for.

Here's an example of an article you can't find on Discogs: http://discpedia.com/wiki/index.php?title=Collecting_classical_records I clicked on "classical records" in genres and was greeted by 200,000 random pictures of album covers. That's the kind of thing that turned me away from Discogs.

Here's an example (it's a pretty poor example, at that) of an article someone wrote for the wiki: http://discpedia.com/wiki/index.php?title=Transporting_records I don't know if you can find anything like that on Discogs... and anything you can't find on Discogs, you can create. I am predominately a Beatles collector, and I never found what I was looking for on Discogs and always ended up using misc. online collector's sites or published books.

I am familiar, I just don't use it. Maybe in the beginning--but the benefit of a wiki is that other users will correct problem edits. As the website owner (and administrators can do this to), I have access to several tools, including mass page deletes. Basically, there are ways to monitor content, but the end hope is that other users will maintain it to the point that it is autonomous... just think of Wikipedia

In a way, I sort of feel like it could be sort of a combination of Discogs and a record collecting book/guide. You can't really find tips and extreme specifics in Discogs, from what I understand. (And don't kick me for already saying that I've never used Discogs )

I've personally never used Discogs... I don't know why, but it's always seemed like a waste of time. It is user controlled, but it doesn't have the freedom of a wiki (essentially you can create whatever formatting you want). Plus non-users can't edit. I didn't realize other people wanted to create an alternative . I had this idea the other night around 2AM and I stayed up until 5AM trying to figure out how to begin.

Hi everyone. Now, before you shoot me down and ridicule me, I would like to present an idea I had the other day. I know there are a lot of websites and forums, like this one, Discogs.com, etc. But it occurred to me that nobody had ever made a wiki, where anyone can post/edit etc. information about record collecting. I decided to rent a domain, (discpedia.com was the most natural-sounding one that was available), and loaded a mediawiki onto it. Currently, I've been trying to add some content. I'm not a professional developer or anything, and I don't have time to make the website huge by myself. You can visit the site--it redirects to the wiki (there's no homepage yet, because I don't know how to write one!... and it's horrendously slow due to Godaddy shared hosting). I've made a few pages and a couple friends have added their own content. I'm just wondering what you all think. Good/bad? Illogical? Will never go anywhere? Thanks! (On a side note, I'm looking for potential authors/content creators. If there's positive feedback for this idea, then you will be well compensated!)