mickeydalez

WHERE THE FUCK IS MINE, JESUS H. CHRIST

Since you never responded to this post in the other Heavens thread, maybe you will here: Let's do a timeline on this entire process. [*:p5gpxipl]July 20 - preorders go up through the Number Nine Sounds myspace page (which no longer exists) for $15.99ppd, with promises of the record being "limited to 1000" and "hand-numbered." A release date of Aug. 21 is set by the label. After payment is made by myself and many other people, ZERO COMMUNICATION is received from N9S/Joe Steinbrick. No order confirmation, no receipt, no anything. [*:p5gpxipl]August 21 - no records. [*:p5gpxipl]August 24 - jhulud emails N9S asking where the records are; N9S says the record will be delayed a few weeks due to an error at the pressing plant. [*:p5gpxipl]September 7 - Still no records. N9S deletes the original blog entry about the release of the record and simply posts that the records will be delayed three more weeks. At this point, it is impossible to get a refund via Paypal for anyone who ordered right when the record was made available, as that has to happen within 45 days of the transaction. [*:p5gpxipl]September 14 - Joe sends out a bulletin on the N9S account and says he's going to delete the N9S MySpace page, but not before telling everyone he's "hoping" for an Oct. 1 ship date and saying "this is your last chance to ask questions through this page." He also posts the rejected Heavens test pressings on eBay at this time. [*:p5gpxipl]September 16 - N9S MySpace is deleted, thereby making it impossible to ask him any questions. [*:p5gpxipl]September 18 - the test presses sell for close to $200 total. Still, no one has their records. [*:p5gpxipl]October 29 - nearly six weeks after his last communication, Joe posts something on the Heavens myspace blog apologizing for the delay. He also says that he will receive the records on Nov. 2 and begin shipping immediately. [*:p5gpxipl]November 1 - Joe confirms he has the records and will start shipping them at a rate of "100 per day" after numbering and stickering them all (keep in mind, this is the first mention of a "sticker" anywhere, and up to this point there has been zero discussion of the record's packaging). [*:p5gpxipl]November 2 - Joe launches a bullshit contest to get people to promote the record's release instead of packaging them up and mailing them out. [*:p5gpxipl]November 6 - Virgil is able to obtain 100 copies of the record from Joe and sells them for a CHEAPER PRICE. Of course, those of us who faithfully pre-ordered get fucked. Also, still no records. [*:p5gpxipl]November 16 - It's discovered that Joe is selling two more test presses on eBay (which he makes another $100 from). Still no records. [*:p5gpxipl]November 19 - Virgil says Joe has promised him 100 more copies of the album. Still no records. [*:p5gpxipl]November 24 - FINALLY, someone receives their record (kyle), over four months after pre-ordering with virtually no public communication from the seller in between (and zero seller-to-buyer communication, either). This is the first time anyone hears about the minimal packaging. [*:p5gpxipl]November 28 - Joe calls Virgil and tells him that he is just now shipping the 200 copies Virgil has already sold on his behalf, even though Joe has had them in hand for nearly a month; Virgil won't be able to start shipping them until approximately next Monday when they arrive. This makes Virgil/Vinyl Collective look like an unreputable company, as he's already taken money from 200 people but has no product to sell them. Joe himself admitted he had sold 500 of the 1000 copies in his Oct. 29 update, meaning he had pulled in approximately $8000 from orders (more if they were international). I'll assume Virgil paid $7 wholesale per copy, meaning Joe's made another $1400 off those. Factor in the $300 he's made off test pressings, and he's pocketed almost $9000 BEFORE EVER SENDING A RECORD OUT. The total is most likely larger, given as how we don't know how many he's sold between Oct. 29 and now through the Heavens myspace (and it's possible Virgil paid more wholesale, too). I don't know where he pressed the record, but Pirates Press currently offers a quote of $2200 for 1000 LPs (virgin vinyl/full sleeves), so one would think he paid less since the product is of a lesser quality (we'll just say $2000 flat). Obviously "packaging" costs were minimal (what's a box Sharpies cost nowadays, $3.29?) and considering how few people have received their records thus far, I bet he's shipping Media Mail, meaning if all 500 copies he sold himself thus far are being shipped in the U.S., that's only $1500 (I don't know how much packing material costs, unfortunately; I always just use recycled mailers when I send stuff out). So based on my numbers, he's looking at $3500-4000 in expenses, and a MINIMUM of $9000 pulled in, most likely more. In closing, FTG (Fuck This Guy). If you don't think those of us who paid for this record, especially early on in the process, have reason to be upset, then I don't know how else to convince you. ohhh, and he also took down the blog off the heavens site...i feel bad for matt skiba, i dont know how he got tangled in this mess

man, rogues march is one fantastic album

so, im pulling onto my street after a super long day at work, and i saw the canada post truck in front of me, and i said to myself records would be cool today....and sure enough stopped right infront of my door my VC oder came... american steel - destroy their future tuesday - freewheelin weezer's tribute album turned out to be a great day

so you are getting another 100 to make the grand total 200? i hope, coz i already got charged..

im new, how do i post a pic?

so i have in my collection a copy of this album on black vinyl, but i have never been able to find pressing info or any of that good stuff. does anyone have any idea on pressing info for this fabulous record?

Yes sweet! i wonder if ill ever get one from joe?

hey all, just curious, if i placed an order for this and got charged, am i guaranteed a copy, even though they took the album down off the site?

wow, this board is fucking crazy, ive been collecting for a while now and have been buying off this site for about a year, and just yesterday realized there was a dope message board, much kudos to vinyl collective!