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Jammy! mine was £3 more. Still less than when I put the order in and feels worth it enough. When I made the order I thought I was doing it for a giggle when continued "out of stock" emails were going to come. Naturally I had a wee hope that they'd actually have some but it wasn't expected. When I received the 'despatched' email I got up and had a wee dance at work.

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Just got an email saying mine had been despatched. F**KING YAAASS!

Yeah, thanks man (I mean that but for some reason it reads sarcastically :S). Sorry if I sounded snippy about the wow thing but your post just got lost in my head amongst a few others here. It is quote a common concern though, to the point that turntables usually quote wow and flutter figures among their spec. For information's sake (and information's sake only, as I am indeed happy with Deathwish's handling of this), this warping is more of the rollercoaster type, where one part of the disc goes up in a bump. I've not figured out how the record appears to be off centre on one side only, (I've only experienced it as a two sided thing before) but if you view the cart it as it's playing from directly above you can see the resulting side to side movement quite obviously and of course the real problem is you can hear it. I probably panicked a little, having found issues with my very first vinyl purchase from yourselves but as I've said before, some of the posts here have been reassuring, as has your own part teamed with the fact that the other record I bought at the same time is absolutely fine. I can say for sure I will be back for more Regards.

Yeah I dropped an email to them before I asked here. I dunno if international postage rates might make it not really worth it though, it may be cheaper to just take a hit on this one and buy another. I'll wait and see. EDIT: Just got a reply and Deathwish are sending out a replacement. That is indeed good service and has to be applauded.

Gah, I love this album and would've been all over this but I have to fork out £200 to get t-shirts printed next week. I'll see if this is still available when I get some of that cash back.

I'm Scottish, they should think themselves lucky that's all it was

Quote a lot of defensive answers; I wasn't having a go for crying out loud, merely asking a question. I'm glad to see the answers saying most haven't had any problems as there are a few other vinyl records on the Deathwish site I'll be looking to buy soon. Some posts here have put my mind at ease about further purchases. 'vinyl' - Lol, take it I stumbled across a forum pet hate then? I wouldn't get any knickers in a twist about it, it was a simple case of slang slipping into my OP. It happens sometimes, mostly because a lot of my typed conversations are with friends so I tend to fall into a much less informal language when I'm doing that. Now, a couple of things: I've been buying vinyl records for over a quarter of a century so I'm more than aware of the inherent production flaws, so some of you can point out the obvious if you like but you're kind of wasting energy. For someone on a forum about vinyl, not to know what 'wow' means is a bit of a surprise. The effect is akin to standing on the street while a siren travels nearer to you from a distance - as the siren gets closer the sound seems to bend. Likewise, if the linear velocity of the stylus across the groove changes because of the increased distance the stylus has to travel (s=d/t) caused by lateral or vertical movement, the sound from the record's surface can appear to bend/stretch. The faults on this particular disc cause this effect. Some flutter is inevitable on many belt drive decks without a correctional PSU but in this instance it is far worse (I do have other records to make a comparison). And yes, warps happen (d'uh) but this warp is severe enough to make the tonearm bounce all over the place when the stylus is lowered onto the disc (using the lowereing mechanism of a Linn arm - I'm not dropping this with my fingers on some badly balanced Numark piece of crap and I know how to properly set up tracking weight and alignment), my cartridge retails for £140 - do I think I should risk having to replace it because of a faulty record? Nope. So, I realise that I may be a forum 'noob' but I ain't a vinyl noob and I'm sure given the praise of the Deathwish service here, they'll be a bit more mature about this issue than some of you lot

Turntables give out a tiny electrical signal compared to CDs/tuners/cassette decks (otherwise known as 'line level' sources), so you should look out for amplifiers with a designated "phono" input. Be wary though, as some modern amps may have a 'phono' switch that isn't enabled. Sometimes the manufacturers have the phono stage as an optional extra which they'll charge extra for as an upgrade. Alternatively (and possibly sonically better) you can buy external pre-amps which are connected between the turntable and the regular amp. A great value for money starting point would be the Cambridge Audio 540p (£60) or 640p (£100). You can find ones for as little as £20 as well. Apart from that, the same rules apply to finding your amp and speakers as it would be for a cd player or any other component.

The 'general sound' is great - tonally, dynamically etc - but there's a huge WOW throughout which is not pleasing. It makes the disc sound out of tune and like someone is constantly turning a speed control. That's the big deal. As an aside, the My Love My Way seems good and jamming so far.

Anyone had any quality issues with them? I had two Modern Life Is War LPs delivered today, just playing Witness now and although the general sound is great, the disc is quite warped, the spindle hole is off-centre on side A (yeah I know it's in the same place on both sides but I mean in relation to the centre of the relative groove spiral) Still to try My Love My Way so hopefully that one will be ok. My worry about Witness is that it's likely to be a pressing error so many of the discs will be the same.

The distortion towards the centre is an age old turntable problem called Inner Groove Distortion. It's caused simply by the stylus trying to track a tighter curve that at more outer portions of the record. Making sure the cartridge alignment and overhang is accurate will help as will buying a cart with a fine stylus (microline, shibata etc). Cheapest is the AT440mla which is currently around £140 in the UK - slightly less in the US i think. EDIT: I see you're using a cheap DJ cart, I'm guessing this is a 'sperical' stylus and you'll get improved results with a reasonable elliptical replacement. Look at the modestly priced Audio Technicas as a starting point, like the AT95 or AT110

I liked it when vinyl was cheaper than CDs. Before they took all the vinyl away

I stumbled across it. A couple of nights ago, I bought the double LP from Burst with Origo and Pray For Life. I was trying to find some photographs of this and in my google search one of the threads here came up. The thread had lots of photos of cool vinyl in it so I was sold.

Hi folks, just signed up - thought I'd chuck my oar in For a cheap first turntable, a used Dual 505 has to be considered. I picked up a 505-2 in a locally advertised private sale (Gumtree) as a temporary measure while I ebayed my Pro-ject Debut III with a view to upgrading. Soundwise, the 505-2 slaughtered the Debut III. It gave more of an illusion of space and was more detailed without verging towards the slightly brittle highs of the Pro-ject. The 505-2 also has the advantage in this comparison of automatically lifting the arm at the end of a side, having a speed selection switch (without a Speedbox, the pro-ject requires lifting the platter off and moving the belt manually - more on the Speedbox later) and has an adjustment to fine tune rotation speed as well as strobe marks to measure the speed under domestic lighting. The one place I gave the Debut III the edge was in speed stability, BUT, this was only because I was using a Pro-ject Speedbox power supply. This unit has frequency regulation to ensure a consistent pace, as well as front-mounted switching between 33.3 and 45rpm. The flipside to this is they cost about £100. Now, I sold that Pro-ject turntable on ebay for £120 (I paid less to buy it new 5 years earlier) and sold the Speedbox for...about £80 I think it was, again more than I paid for it new, so the project gear has kept a good value for resale. The Dual cost me £20. Eventually, from the sale of my pro-ject stuff I bought a second hand Systemdek IIX for £160/£170 with a Linn LVX (Basik Plus) arm. It now has my Audio Technica At440mla cartridge fitted and it really is a jump in quality - for a good bit less than a new Debut III will cost. Of course, the second hand market can be a risk if you're new to turntables; some vendors don't know how to properly package these delicate pieces of equipment for transit and it lets you shop with some confidence if you know the basics of servicing the turntable and fixing the cartridge. If you can cover that, even with help from a friend, then second hand is where the value is.