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    (PO Now) mewithoutYou - Pale Horses

    in Vinyl Collective Message Board

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    I know this is unrelated to this topic, but I don't feel like bumping an old thread and figured people in here might know just as well:

     

    I purchased a copy of Brother, Sister through Burnt Toast Vinyl and cannot seem to find any information on it. It is neither the recent repress on dark green/olive, nor the 'moon split'. It does share its colors (blue/purple), but it has different labels.

     

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    Does one of you have the same pressing or know what's up with that? There's no discogs entry, been there, done that.

     

    all knowledge is much apprecicated

     

    Can you take a picture of just the record?   It mostly just looks black to me.  maybe just a dark marble.  

    (PO Now) mewithoutYou - Pale Horses

    in Vinyl Collective Message Board

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    the bell gardens of the east coast

     

    Welp, it has gotten worse.  my package started out in Brighton MA, then the Jersey City, NJ sorting facility, then on to Richmond, CA, and now it is at the Bells Garden, CA sorting facility.  I live in Tennessee btw.  I looked up the Bells Garden facility and tons of pictures of ruined packages.  Hope the vinyl makes it out of there.  

    (PO Now) mewithoutYou - Pale Horses

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    Is the bonus track on the vinyl itself? I honestly think the B-side not ending with the real last track would be a dealbreaker for me. Also, does the Euro press still have the awesome jacket?

     

    Yeah, it plays right after Rainbow Signs.  Chapelcross Towns great song, but it doesn't complement Rainbow Signs very well. 

     

    The jacket is the same except that it has a BSM logo on the back and the bonus song.

    (PO Now) mewithoutYou - Pale Horses

    in Vinyl Collective Message Board

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    As someone who saw them tour behind A->B: Life, I can say with certainty that their live show is now more tame than in the past.  It was complete ruckus back in the day, with all members (expect their first bass player) going insanely nuts, moving and gyrating from one side of the stage to the other. 

     

    That said, they are still really fantastic live... so I agree with encouraging others to check them out live.

     

    I saw them during AB Life as well, and it was crazy.  I think Norma Jean rubbed off on them a bit.  But it seems like their live show has remained the same since Brother, Sister.  Some shows have been more energetic than others, but they have all been good and Aaron always brings something different to each show.

    (PO Now) mewithoutYou - Pale Horses

    in Vinyl Collective Message Board

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    Used to post on this board quite a while ago but have long since forgotten my username and my password.  Figured at least this time I won’t forget the username.

     

    Anyway, this release and this band interest me a lot and I've seen a lot of people wondering about pressing info and discussing all the different variants etc so here’s the best info I can gather as of 13-17 hours after the US/UK releases first went up for sale (as I write this it's currently early-afternoon, 5/5/15; hopefully this won't take too long).  [EDIT: IT TOOK A REALLY LONG TIME.  Now that I've actually written this I'm kinda sick at myself for how much time I spent on this...time flies when you're researching and compiling record pressing stats and other such information on the internet, amirite?]

     

    mewithoutYou - Pale Horses pressing info (feel free to correct me/add to this)

     

    1. U.S.

    Deluxe Editions

    For sale here.

    General info:

    Four options; two LP color variants, each either autographed and hand-numbered or not.

    Details: Two 12” 180 gram LPs + Custom Die-Cut Triple Gatefold + 2xCD with alternate artwork + 10”x10” 20-Page Lyric Booklet + Booklet of Postcards by Vasily Kafanov + 30” x 20” Double-Sided Poster.  Autographed versions come signed and hand-numbered.  Total deluxe edition LPs pressed: 4,000.

    • Audiophile Black: Autographed/Hand-Numbered. Pressing: 500
    • Audiophile Black: Non-autographed.  Pressing: 1,500
    • Double Rainbow: Autographed/Hand-Numbered. Pressing: 500
    • Double Rainbow: Non-autographed.  Pressing: 1,500

     

    2. U.S.

    Non-Deluxe

    For sale here. (with the exception of the Hot Topic variant).

    General info:

    Four LP color variants.  Also available on CD, cassette and as a digital download.  Pressing information for CDs and cassettes currently unknown; may not have a specified amount made.  Total non-deluxe LPs pressed: 6,000.

    • Grimace Purple A-Side / Milky Clear B-Side 12" LP; Pressing: 500
    • Oxblood w/ Bone/Silver Splatter (Hot Topic Exclusive Color) 12" LP; Pressing: 1,000
    • Olive Green A-Side / Bone B-Side 12" LP; Pressing: 1,500
    • Bone w/ Aqua Splatter 12" LP; Pressing: 3,000
    • CD; Pressing: Unknown
    • Cassette; Pressing: Unknown
    • Digital Download

    Total U.S. pressing of LPs only: 10,000.

    Total U.S. LP color variants of Pale Horses: 6

    Total U.S. versions of Pale Horses: 11

     

     

    3. U.K./EU (Pt. 1 - Big Scary Monsters Recording Company)

    For sale here.

    General info:

    Two LP color variants and a CD.  Non-deluxe.  All include a U.K./EU bonus track. (Bonus track appears on the US deluxe editions but not the US non-deluxe pressings.)  U.K./EU CD pressing currently unknown; may not have a specified amount made.  Total U.K./EU LPs released by BSM: 700.

    • Clear with cherry cola colour in colour and black splatter 12" LP; Pressing: 200
    • Black 12" LP; Pressing: 500
    • CD; Pressing: Unknown

     

    4. U.K. (Pt. 2 - Banquet Records & confusion)

    For sale here.

    General info:

    Two U.K. LP color variants not sold on the BSM site.  Also, a CD that is potentially different than the one on the BSM site and may be put out by Banquet Records, BSM, Run For Cover Records or some mix of the three labels.  Unclear whether the CD is any different than the other CD sold in the UK by BSM.  All non-deluxe.  All include a U.K./EU bonus track. (Bonus track appears on the US deluxe editions but not the US non-deluxe pressings.)  Potentially unique U.K. CD pressing currently unknown; may not have a specified amount made.  Banquet Records also sells a "Bone W/Aqua" LP variant but gives no pressing info for the LP - "Bone w/ Aqua Splatter" is the most commonly pressed variant of the LP and is sold by Run For Cover Records in the U.S., so I don't know if that version is any different from the Run For Cover Records version in the U.S. or not.  I want to say it's at least slightly different because the tracklisting on the side of the page includes a 12th track labeled UK/EU exclusive, but then the same page says "Label: Run For Cover / Big Scary Monsters."  They sell three versions of the release on their site and I have no idea which it's referring to...or what it even means.  Possibly that "/" symbolizes a collaboration between the two record companies to make a different U.K. release separate from the U.S. release?  Or maybe it means that one or more of the releases is strictly a BSM or Run For Cover release?  I'm also not sure why they don't mention themselves next to "Label:" - i.e. Banquet Records - since both their description and the BSM site say Banquet Records has at least one exclusive U.K. variant.  This is what I meant by confusion.  Also, I am realizing how irrelevant this is becoming.  Ugh.  I started off nicely at least.  Total  U.K. LPs released by Banquet Records: 300 + ???

    • Clear with blue & purple splatter (Banquet Records U.K. exclusive - also comes with an mp3 code) 12" LP; Pressing: 300
    • Bone W/Aqua (No pressing info, confusion about this release noted in above paragraph) 12" LP; Pressing: ???
    • CD (Potentially identical to the copy sold by BSM and therefore irrelevant; it could be different, I guess.) Pressing: Unknown/Potentially same as CD sold by BSM

     

    Total U.K./EU pressing of LPs only: 1,000 + ???

    Total U.K/EU LP color variants of Pale Horses: Either 3 or 4 (Fuck you, "Bone W/Aqua")

    Total U.K./EU versions of Pale Horses: Either 4, 5 or 6 (Fuck you, "Bone W/Aqua" and vague U.K. CD or UK CDs plural)

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    Total WORLDWIDE pressing of LPs only: 11,000 + ???

    Total WORLDWIDE LP color variants of Pale Horses: Either 9 or 10

    Total WORLDWIDE versions of Pale Horses: Either 15, 16 or 17

    ...that have been announced so far.

     

    Damn the U.K. for not being clear about unimportant details regarding far-off releases from an American band.  I thought I'd do like 10-20 minutes of research max and have all the answers and make a nice, informative rundown on this album's release.  Then you gotta go and do this, and now look at the monstrous uncertainty in my final numbers.  Unforgivable.

     

    No, but really, everyone else who is a variant collector or just wanted to know what the pressing info was since it wasn't super clear, I hope this helped.  This took so, so much longer than I intended it to.  I forget my login, continue to collect records but just lurk this board now and then and one day I make a comeback and it turns into this.  I think my new username sums it all up.

     

    POSTSCRIPT!  Fun Facts!

    • As of 3:58PM scratch that, this shit took too long to write and now I have to do each one over.  As of 4:27PM Eastern, 5/5/15, this is the availability of the Deluxe Edition records:

      Audiophile Black: Autographed/Hand-Numbered. Available copies: 15 0 - SOLD OUT

      Audiophile Black: Non-autographed.  Available copies: 1,470

      Double Rainbow: Autographed/Hand-Numbered. Available copies: 0 - SOLD OUT

      Double Rainbow: Non-autographed. Available copies: 954

       

    • As of 4:29PM Eastern, 5/5/15, the only U.S., non-deluxe release of Pale Horses that has sold out is the Grimace Purple A-Side / Milky Clear B-Side variant of the 12" LP.  Everything else in "section 2" of this list is currently still available.  And you can still get the Purple/Clear variant if you want to pay $42.00 (including shipping, assuming you're in the U.S.) for the T-Shirt Package Bundle that also includes that variant of the vinyl plus a shirt and a poster.  All shirt sizes still available as well.  Side note; I wonder how many of the purple variants actually sold and how many are reserved for the T-Shirt Bundle?  Not all 500 sold or else the T-Shirt Bundles wouldn't still be available...and it sold out fairly quick, right?  Maybe they only let like 50 copies of the Purple vinyl be purchased on their own before they were "Sold Out" and had to be bought through the T-Shirt Bundle instead...nahh just kidding, Run For Cover Records is seriously legit, I expect those T-Shirt Bundles to start selling out before long.  Just something I always think about when the rarest variant sells out super quick and is then only available in bundles at double, triple, quadruple the cost or more.  FYI the bundle is less than double by about 5 bucks (after shipping) so it's not as bad as it often is, plus you get a shirt that's actually not hideous and a poster of the cover art which is also not bad at all, so kudos.
    • According to MWY's tweet late last night it doesn't seem like the CD version sold separately from the Deluxe Edition LPs is a "Deluxe Edition" CD - not sure if that means it just doesn't come with the booklet and postcards and poster etc or if it also means it lacks any extra tracks, does not contain different artwork etc...also, no clue what the cassette will come out looking like yet.
    • As of 4:31PM Eastern, 5/5/15, all U.K. variants and versions appear to still be in stock from both BSM and Banquet Records.
    • Speaking of which, this info might be useful to some: I bought the Clear with cherry cola colour in colour and black splatter UK variant of the record as well, limited to 200 copies; the record alone costs £14.99 GBP and they have a flat shipping rate of £6.00 to the U.S. so the total was £20.99 - I paid using PayPal and after the currency conversion and the fees PayPal tacks on for international transactions (about a dollar in this case) the total came to $32.71 USD, shipped from the U.K. to the U.S.  The other UK variant(s?) for sale on the Banquet Records site have the same item cost but their shipping, at least for a single LP, is a £7.00 to the US instead of £6.00...but I didn't get anything from them and only got as far as changing my location to "Rest of the world" without filling anything else in before giving up, so the price could have gotten higher later in the checkout as is often the case...you guys can figure that one out for yourselves.

       

    • Unrelated, but these guys are incredibly passionate live and very much worth going to see if you haven't already,  Then again it's been 9 years since I've seen them, but if they play even half the show they did then, it's worth seeing.

     

    Welp, there was an afternoon at work well spent.  Happy Cinco de Mayo.  Time for a margarita or 11,000+...

     

    thanks for the write up.  The Cassette is 300 copies and clear with blue tape.  info here.

     

    and I couldn't figure anything out about the Bone with Aqua or CD UK release either.   

     

    Runforcover, do you have any info on this?

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