NicCartel

That's the old version. Epic didn't re-release with the O-card because it was expensive to press, like 90cents per record or something (But they had us re-record a song, & re-shoot a video... The logic there is not sound). Major labels...sheesh. ACS: thanks man! We certainly will, freebird live venue is the jam!

The difference between the two is just a full band (Epic's) version (drums, guitars, strings). If your copy doesn't have the epic records logo on it then that is the old version (also has the O-card - sleeve for the cd case) We still have a few old version chroma cd's militia group sent us. Of course you can only buy them at our shows.

Ide buy that! The cats might protest it's release on twitter though. Hah.

Nice! Well let's hang again & shoot the shit! I'm in Atlanta also. We can grab a beer & preach about how old we are haha.

Mike Hauben: ahhh it's all good man. No worries!

Dude, take me back! great tour! Jack rabbits, holy hell that place always got so hot! they closed that place right?

Exactly. See what I mean?! Someone get this man a cat .gif & a 1,000 internets.

sold! PM me.

*gesture. Dammit you guys are ruthless! Gimme a break I drop out of college over 10yrs ago haha

Your a little behind on this. It was clear comms between us & ETR were lost along the way sometime last year. We as a band never discussed anything about ETR's project, for the info was never relayed to us or even followed up on. This is why it was such a surprise when it released the other day. & why wouldn't we deserve free copies? Any record of ours pressed by other labels has always given the band free copies for the collection. It's just a nice jester. I'm not going to pay for my own music. The amount of heart we put into making it I think we deserve at least a copy for each member. But that's just me, the 1 of 5 guys who pulled his hair out for 3weeks while recording it. As for as my knowledge we didn't ask him to bail on production. & our "tweets" were never intended to stir shit. Merely to let people know we had no part in its production & ours will come with "extras" for the 10yr. I really don't see how that stirs things up, actually yes I do. Misinterpretations of what we said somehow turned into "bashing ETR", or "telling people not to buy it". We never did any of that. Regardless it's still cool to see it in vinyl form. I think ETR did a good job. I'm not mad at ETR one bit, he beat us to the punch fair & square.

Great questions. We should certainly still have the masters. As far as format I have no idea man sorry, it was long time ago but I can try to find out as much info as possible. I'm not sure what ETR's whole process, I'm curious myself what the costs were to get the rights.

Ha, possibly. The demo version was actually a key higher than the original! But it was too high to sing for Will, not that he couldn't hit it, it just put a lot of strain on his voice.

Some brainstormed ideas we talked about include: -re-mastered -Un-released b-sides that never made it on chroma -digital download for chroma -old pics/videos -a fucking Tshirt -subliminal messages for cats -limited edition color vinyl -etc... Just some of the things off the top of my head. This record means a lot to us so in turn we want to make it special for you guys. If all you want is record then by all means go buy ETR's version (assuming you like Cartel). point is it's our 10yr, it's a long time. I wish we could have put this out sooner but well we just couldn't. As someone said earlier were just one of those poor bands with a bunch of 30yr olds. hah

Haha. I'll talk to the guys about doing that. Might as well since it's been out a year.

All good man, thank you. I believe you 100%, this is certainly a case of lost translation & we failed to follow up with it. I personally do not remember any of this & there are 100's of messages on our band Facebook of which we try to check from time to time but obviously don't get to them all. I agree it is hard to get in contact with the right people, & I probably would have done the same as you. I will apologize on behalf of my party if we have cause any wrong doing to your label, it was never our intention. We were merely trying to help illuminate the situation at hand via twitter since we were caught off guard(well... More like completely forgot about it according to the screen caps. That clears it up). Our replies were never meant to create a shit storm or bash you guys. Feel free to message me personally, I posted my email a page or two back. I certainly do not want any more drama to this mess, good luck with the interview. I'm sure we will be contacted also for "our side of the story" as well. Again it was just lost communication & you guys were in the legal right to do this. you guys did a good job on the vinyl. I hope it sells well. This whole thing is starting to feel like jerry springer. Cat .gif anyone? Hah Take it easy Nic