Why was 'the What's It Worth?' thread locked?

[mot]

What's it worth?

Do what people long before ebay and the internet did - talk to your local record store owners if they seem like they'd be knowledable, or go buy a copy of Goldmine.

Sidenote: Is it really that hard to google "record collector price guides"??

By the same token...why be part of a message board community? Buy a book of stamps and start writing letters.

[mattstrike]

What's it worth?

Do what people long before ebay and the internet did - talk to your local record store owners if they seem like they'd be knowledable, or go buy a copy of Goldmine.

Sidenote: Is it really that hard to google "record collector price guides"??

By the same token...why be part of a message board community? Buy a book of stamps and start writing letters.

Not really the same token, put +1 for the effort!

[mot]

I was never really good at those cheesy sayings!

[leerobert]

I think a healthy debate about packaging/customer service is necessary once in a while, especially when people don't feel they're getting what they paid for. Yes, it's best handled with a private email, but since it was public anyway, why not let the debate continue?

Exactly. Just ask matey boy Jeff over at Run For Cover. I'll bet he wishes all those threads were locked.

[Guest markovianprocess]

First of all, i think this thread MUST exist. I've wanted to start it but know that the whole... People wanting to flip records... issue would look like my intentions. Well, partially they are, but, the only reason i would buy and flip a record is to make money to buy another record that someone else is flipping, but i have to be knowledgeable enough to what will be worth to do it and i will get into this further in my post.... If i want and only have access to some rare record that pops up on eBay every once and a while and the only reason i missed out on getting it is because i was not collecting records at the time or missed the selling of it (Due to flippers) why is it such a big deal for me to do the same to get that record?

I am very interested in how many people flip records just for the money, rather than flip them for, or to justify/fund their purchase of some rare piece they're missing. I would put money that about 80% of flippers do it to fund their vinyl habit and get that rare piece of vinyl that they can only find on the Bay. You have to be interested in music and vinyl in general to even come up with idea.

I'm sure a few people flip records solely to make money but the time and research it takes for a person not interested in vinyl to research bands/vinyl sales, then sit around and find out when it's coming out is not worth the trouble unless they are smart/good at it (Which i think is rare).

Considering how many people still ask "They still make vinyl records" should reinforce my point.

IE: Would you buy a couple limited number of a certain piece of vinyl that you know will be worth some cash to buy that 100$ record you're desiring or work a full day or two of work to buy that rare ass piece of vinyl?

You have to be knowledgeable on the subject to do it, therefore, i bet about 8/10 people that do it are doing it to fund purchases of other releases...

You have to do too much research and what not to make it profitable if you are solely a flipper! and the profit is RARELY worth the amount of time and the research it takes to figure out how many should i buy to make a profit etc... Plus most smart labels limit the quantities sold (Which i am a firm believer of, except for that fact that my brother and I have to order separately from Fat Wreck to get our two copies of a colored piece of history, he's too young to own a credit/ debit card and mail order has proven to be untrustworthy - so he uses my mom's credit card to buy LPs and we have to spend more shipping cost to each get a copy)

I see the thread has been re-opened, which is great! The thread would only be a problem if it was "Is this soon to be released LP a rare piece of vinyl that will sell out quickly and i could make money off it?"

A true and straight up "Flipper" could not use a "What's this worth" thread to his full advantage because it would be asking about previously released vinyl that is not available anymore. If somone was to ask "What will this be worth/is this gonna be rare" that would be another story and i doubt anybody on here would facilitate his inquiry.

I feel this is a MUCH NEEDED thread because some people are willing to part with one piece of vinyl to get another. Most of us will pay out the ass to get something we want and i see no harm in finding out what a less desirable piece of wax is worth to basically upgrade to something we want more!

It's a combination of "Flippers" and "Upgraders" that buy stuff to sell it and the "What it's worth" thread will not facilitate either of them if the vinyl is OOP. So, there should be one rule - Only ask about hard to find/ Out Of Print Records" and as long as nobody spills the beans about what a new release will be worth it will be totally legit.

Well, that's my feelings i have and let me know what you all think about it.

I wish I had as much free time as you seem to have

Says the guy with 1000+ posts.

[brennan]

First off, it's ignorant to think anyone inquiring about the price of a specific record is only asking for flipping purposes. I'd bet most people are concerned about overpaying for a record.

Secondly, why not have a locked sticky thread called "What is my record worth?" with links to eBay and Popsike?

ebay doesn't keep track of auctions over a certain amount of days old and popsike only keeps track of certain bands/ auctions that go over a certain price, both are seriously flawed and markets can fluctuate ridiculously. People are more knowledgeable and better at noticing outliers in the pattern.

[hickey]

First off, it's ignorant to think anyone inquiring about the price of a specific record is only asking for flipping purposes. I'd bet most people are concerned about overpaying for a record.

Secondly, why not have a locked sticky thread called "What is my record worth?" with links to eBay and Popsike?

ebay doesn't keep track of auctions over a certain amount of days old and popsike only keeps track of certain bands/ auctions that go over a certain price, both are seriously flawed and markets can fluctuate ridiculously. People are more knowledgeable and better at noticing outliers in the pattern.

So what are those people basing their estimates on? Even if they can't find an old eBay auction, someone will chime in and say "I saw it go for $xx a few months ago ON EBAY."

Any system that puts a "value" or "worth" on records is seriously flawed, because records are only "worth" what people are willing to pay. And that's a false value. It's not like produce or food where you buy it for a set amount of $X per pound or per item. Yes, there are price guides out there, but those don't really apply to the types of records people here buy.

[vacumecleanerman]

I wish I had as much free time as you seem to have

Says the guy with 1000+ posts.

HA, that's what i thought when i read it...

Also, to previous anti "What it's worth thread" stuff. There is also a range that can be given rather than a single dollar amount, ie. "i've seen it go for between xx and xxx dollars" or "It sells for xx in auction but is really still available here ____" etc., etc,

What happened to that thread anyway?????????