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Not that I care either way because I'll be rolling balls that weekend down state, but as a result of Weaselpalooza being memorial day weekend Windy City Sound Clash has been canceled.

I like Jeff (who organizes WCSC), but I highly doubt these shows were booked to put the kibosh on his festival. Sounds more like a coincidence that didn't really work out in his favor.

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i would go to chicago and just visit justin and not even bother going to this.

go and see shot baker and leave, which is probably what I'll do.

then we can go get pizza, which is far better than SW ever will be.

fuck it. i'll buy tickets next month. could i get a ride from the airport and could i have a couch to sleep on?

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You're out of your mind, Justin. The SW show in Philly and the first Ben Weasel solo show at Reggie's were two of the best shows I've been to in many, many years. Drop the Chicago punk rock drama. They'll be three crazy fun punk rock shows. Period. The rest is silly scene bullshit.

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Who cares if you pay money and have a good time where the money goes?

that's what i said about cocaine!

Ha! You know what I mean, though. You pay $20, see a bunch of great bands and have a good time. You get you money's worth. Nothing else should really matter. Not going/paying because you don't like the music is fine, but saying they'll be fun shows and not going because of scene politics is just dumb.

Unless Ben Weasel did something to you personally, Justin. Then I would understand.

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go and see shot baker and leave, which is probably what I'll do.

then we can go get pizza, which is far better than SW ever will be.

fuck it. i'll buy tickets next month. could i get a ride from the airport and could i have a couch to sleep on?

Yes you can stay with me, no on a ride because we don't own cars, I don't even have a license, but both airports are connected to train lines that can easily be taken to my house...so I can come and meet you and we can ride back.

that work for you?

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fuck it. i'll buy tickets next month. could i get a ride from the airport and could i have a couch to sleep on?

Yes you can stay with me, no on a ride because we don't own cars, I don't even have a license, but both airports are connected to train lines that can easily be taken to my house...so I can come and meet you and we can ride back.

that work for you?

im gonna look into tickets next month. i'll probably go friday afternoon or night. depends. we'll work it out. excited..

like HANK JONES, we're gonna have a Pizza Party!!!

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that's what i said about cocaine!

Ha! You know what I mean, though. You pay $20, see a bunch of great bands and have a good time. You get you money's worth. Nothing else should really matter. Not going/paying because you don't like the music is fine, but saying they'll be fun shows and not going because of scene politics is just dumb.

Unless Ben Weasel did something to you personally, Justin. Then I would understand.

nothing to me personally, but how he's treated my friends, other labels he's worked with, and his general attitude.

Listen Andrew,

you've spent a lot of your life listening to SW albums and the music has permeated your life. You're invested in SW; in time, and yes it could be argued money, but way more importantly: in time. ...and I am not.

I got into the Ramones and the Ramones-disciple punk bands later than most people because I simply took a different musical path as a teenager. And by the time I got around to start checking the SW stuff out I was surrounded by a lot of people that had dealt with Ben and still do deal with him on personal and business levels and so my opinion on the guy is 100% tainted by other people's opinions and then my own experiences in understanding how he operates. I completely recognize that Ben is at times a world class lyricist first and can write a catchy pop punk song better than just about anybody, those facts are facts and indisputable. I'm not super into the Riverdales though (though I do like the song "Make Way", the Methadones played that live a few times and I didn't know until much later).

My objection to dealing with him are purely based on on my opinion of the man and the knowledge in my head of the shit he pulls that people don't know about. That knowledge that I simply will not go into on a message board because if nothing else that would spin into a hearsay argument first and an argument on opinion second. And that is not an argument I have time for, for one; and two: one I care to participate in, because it's pointless.

My opinion isn't based on a Shakespearean betrayal on a personal level, it's about the general consensus about the man and not the band. I really wish I could really get into that band, but I don't have the nostalgia to back it up. I bought Boogadax3 like 14 or 15 years ago because it had a iconic cover and I knew nothing about the band except they were this mysterious band from Chicago that I'd heard about and while I thought "Dingbat" was a super catchy song, but I thought the lyrics to that song were dumb and the songs sounded too much the same (and there were too many songs on that record) so I decided I wasn't into that style so I sold the CD back to the store and got something else. In the past few years I've had several friends continue to try to get me to like more o f their stuff. I've had friends get deep and philosophical about Anthem for a New Tomorrow and the Emo album and his solo albums, etc..., but I just don't care enough to overcome what I know about the person behind most of it...well, I'll say the voice behind it to not discredit other past or current members of the band.

This topic comes up a couple of times a year, and we continually get into the same argument, you see bands differently than I do, this isn't scene drama that you think I'm making a fuss over. I choose to not support that man and what he does, and put my money where my mouth is.

But let's get serious here for a second, there is pizza in Chicago that will make you forget about SW, even if it's just for a few moments.

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Yes you can stay with me, no on a ride because we don't own cars, I don't even have a license, but both airports are connected to train lines that can easily be taken to my house...so I can come and meet you and we can ride back.

that work for you?

im gonna look into tickets next month. i'll probably go friday afternoon or night. depends. we'll work it out. excited..

like HANK JONES, we're gonna have a Pizza Party!!!

I have that 7" this can happen!

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yeah, keeping my fingers crossed that this will be cancelled. some how, some way. and justin, i like how you keep it real! hahaha

ps, if i go to this, will you go with a bag of popcorn to watch all the fun that could happen with me taunting him between every single song? cus if you do, i'm coming to chi town!

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