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19 minutes ago, bridley said:

Thanksgiving was a month ago

Just realized that when @simple_torture made his comment earlier that he said Veterans Day not Valentines Day, meaning his comment made a whole lot more sense than I originally thought. 

Also forgot that other places in the world have Thanksgiving holidays. 

I’m definitely spacing today. Must be all this talk of RSD in November. My brain doesn’t know how to respond 

8 minutes ago, craigeduk said:

Even if it is "just" an alt version its still essential! So good spotting this one out.

I agree completely. I’m a pretty big fan from way back and have mostly first pressings of their early catalogue, so I’ll bite even if it is simply an alternate version. 

If I’m being honest, I’d have to admit that I’d even buy a chopped and screwed version of this album. 

1 minute ago, craigeduk said:

Cool, have emailed them

 

A reissue of the album proper is coming at some point from Castleface (its listed as forthcoming on a booklet sent with their last lp and has a catalog number assigned). So interesting to see what this is, could be just alt versions and demos without the original album.

I also got the same insert showing it as an upcoming release. Interesting point that this might just be an alternate version. I’ll let everyone know if I hear anything relevant from the label. 

2 minutes ago, simple_torture said:

That "motherfuckers" wasn't directed at you, of course.

 

And, yes, definitely, allowing pre-orders is a cool idea.

Oh, I know it wasn’t directed at me. We both had the same response to seeing some RSD shit literally 6 months in advance. It’s a bit much.

I would not normally  encourage something like that by posting it here, but ultimately decided that since Narnack is a cool indie label, and is definitely not doing this as some marketing ploy, and they are allowing pre-orders for an in demand title, that I’d help spread the word. 

It was a hard call to make. I know RSD can get cringey with the over the top antics some of the labels, fans, and sellers engage in. I really don’t want to be one of those people or encourage them, but this felt different.

1 minute ago, simple_torture said:

Motherfuckers, it's not even Veterans Day yet!

I know, man. Hell, it ain’t even Thanksgiving yet. 

If they weren’t letting fans email direct to reserve copies I wouldn’t have even posted this, but I would hate to sit on that and have users here miss out on this release. Narnack is pretty bad at keeping things in print, and I could see this being impossible to get for a lot of people. I’ve been waiting on this to get reissued for years. I’m still pretty pissed at myself for not getting it the first time around. 

I know it’s crazy to start a thread for RSD 2019 this early, but I just came across a release that I thought people should know about and thought it couldn’t hurt to go ahead and do the damn thing. 

On Narnack’s Bandcamp page they’ve teased that they’re going to be rereleasing Thee Oh Sees’s Cool Death of Island Raiders for RSD in April 2019. It looks like this’ll be an expanded version with alternates and outtakes. The Bandcamp page for this alternates and outtakes version also has different album art than the original release. I’m not sure if this will be the final cover or not but thought some people may be interested in that. 

Most importantly, they’re encouraging people to email them directly to reserve a copy. I think it’s great that they are allowing fans to order direct and avoid the crowds on RSD and also avoid flippers on Discogs and eBay. 

You can can find more info (including how to reserve your copy) here:

http://narnackrecords.bandcamp.com/album/the-cool-death-of-island-raiders-alternates-unreleased

1 hour ago, andables said:

this is now up for PO on vinyl and CD on their bandcamp page:

 

https://music.gamechops.com/album/zelda-chill

 

Vinyl is out of 500

Just went back and listened to this again. I didn’t like it much the first couple of times I heard it but really liked it the third time for some reason. 

I’d definitely encourage anyone into hip hop instrumentals to spend some time with this one. It was hard to justify spending $35 on this($10 US shipping), but I know I’m going to regret not getting it. 

Thanks for sharing the link. Glad it motivated me to check this out again. 

41 minutes ago, DoublesGuy said:

Bae is back in stock as of writing this for anyone who wants it

https://yung-bae.myshopify.com/collections/music/products/bae-vinyl-record-yung-bae

 

 

Sold out

2 hours ago, jhulud said:

Any time there’s a Pearl Jam release or related to the band, a 10C exclusive gets done. 

Got it. I was wondering if it was the same ten club. I was a member back in the nineties when they did t shirts and 7”s every Christmas. I didn’t realize they’d starting doing exclusive pressings. 

Definitely had to grab these. My favorite 80s Sub Pop releases by far. 

What’s up with the 10 club by the way? Is this something new their doing in addition to the loser editions they’ve been doing for years?

So my package showed up today completely fucked on one side. Thankfully these were double boxed and had tons of packing material in the outer box. Mine arrived 100% perfect. All corners are crisp and there are no seam splits. Really top notch packing on this order. 

The packaging likewise wise is top notch. I’m really glad I got these. I won’t be able to play them until this afternoon, but so far, so good. No need to worry about cheap packaging or cheap packing from amazon.jp. Hope everyone starts getting their orders today. 

1 hour ago, VinylMario said:

Shit... Just cancelled my Bullmoose order for this! This is dope!

 

Really wish this wasn’t $40. Kinda torn about getting it. I know I’ll be happier getting something more reasonably priced, but have little faith that I’ll be able to keep from ordering it. Hopefully it sells out before I cave. 

Edit:

.....Aaaaand it’s five minutes later and I’ve already impulse-bought this shit. 

Fuck, I really need a new hobby. 

1 hour ago, highfives said:

Mine should be here tomorrow, but I only ordered one.  Same thing though, tons of emails in Japanese.  I ended up using online translators to translate the emails. 

Looks like mine will be here tomorrow as well. It never showed up today and now has an estimated delivery date of tomorrow. 

Either way, really excited to get these. I hope they were packed well for the trip. Something tells me replacement copies will be hard to come by. Aren’t these sold out everywhere? I haven’t seen an active listing for any of these titles for a while. 

My order from amazon.jp is out for delivery. I have no idea if I’ll be getting all or part of my order. My order updates have all been in Japanese, but I think based on the number of emails I’ve received with different titles named in the subject line, that it should be most if not all of my order. 

Has anyone else gotten any notifications or received their packages yet? I’m really excited to get these and would like to hear what other people think if they’ve gotten their shipments yet. 

On 11/1/2018 at 4:25 PM, timsimmons said:

I know when Sub Pop does record fairs, they sell box sets of Vol. 3. I may just wait and pick this up in a few years. Especially since it doesn't seem limited like the previous vols were.

 

If anyone has any tips on how to get one of these, hit me up! I’d love to get this whole set. 

3 minutes ago, tetsuodaironman said:

I've been waiting for their new album for 3+ years. Probably top 5 favorite bands of all time for me. VERY MUCH looking forward to this one. Been listening to Fading Frontier this AM. Too much fucking POWER in their music.

I agree completely that Deerhunter are one of the best bands of all time. I feel like them and Big Star are probably the best bands to ever come out of the south. I’m always surprised that this band isn’t more popular. I’m really looking forward to this. 

Anyone catch how limited this variant is?

4 minutes ago, copelandkid said:

no yeah i've been following this whole thing, being sincere here to be perfectly clear haha
and you're right, smaller labels do this sort of thing often with no repercussions beyond perhaps damage to reputation, and even then they often magically reappear and do it again with a new target audience. i imagine a lawyer with connections to the small label scene could make a decent amount of money litigating stuff like this when it pops up...

The way to win this is to ultimately get some broader coverage of this rampant fraud.

Again, it happens in small dollar amounts and is a con job only pulled by a few shady label owners, but if we stand up to these clowns, and make their artists and business partners aware of this practice, we can cut this stuff out. 

I ask again, what artists would want to be on a label like this? In an era when physical media sales are a coveted source of revenue, no artist would want to be associated with fraud and bullying like what Todd has done to some of us. 

It doesn’t just begin and end with artists. Distrubutors, stores, and sites like Bandcamp would also like to know about this stuff. 

It continues because none of us complain or make noise. We all just think, “Oh, it’s only $25. No big deal. It’s just the cost of doing business.” We excuse this bad behavior for thieves like Todd Ledford. 

Whether or or not this shit continues is up to us. 

Just now, copelandkid said:

i was readin' his exchange with you and others on that reddit thread and i gotta say, mad props to you @GrapplesInStereo for being willing to take his ass to court
you don't see that kind of dedication often

You should read my edit to my first comment on this thread. 

Basically the the situation is this: Todd Ledford has been taking preorders for his label and only filling a small amount of them for about two years. He’s stolen thousands at least and possibly tens of thousands. I think on the high end, we’re looking at $30,000 to $40,000 in ill-gotten gains. There have been at least four releases that he’s put out on his label and pulled this stunt. Even if he only gets a few thousand each time, it still adds up. 

The truth is we don’t know how much he stole unless we start to add it up. 

I bet it’s a lot more than any of us think. 

There are are other labels who pull this stuff, and make no mistake, it will continue until we hold somebody accountable. 

6 minutes ago, unknown pleasures said:

I think you're taking it slightly personally. If he's hidden behind a LLC - and even the most rudimentary business person would do that - there's really not much you can do in a case like this.

 

I agree he's a jerk but there's jerks in life and they don't always get what they deserve.

But I doubt he’s hiding behind an LLC. That seems to be beyond his skill set of being a scuzzy rip off artist 

Edit:

I want to be clear, I would never suggest something like this lightly, but it really does seem like this guy enjoys being a bully and I for one am willing to put some work in to prevent anyone else from getting ripped off by this guy. 

Just now, lethalenforcer said:

Sleep with his mom and call it a wash.

Have you seen her?

That’d be my bad, man. 

So I wound up getting into a pretty long argument with Todd Ledford on Reddit today. He was as condescending and combative as ever, including mocking users who were asking *nicely* about the status of their orders that were placed in January of 2017. 

Not gonna lie, I went really hard against him. Definitely confronted that dude in a way that I typically reserve for only the worst trolls. 

He even went so far as to offer to explain how PayPal has kept him from filling orders in some case for as long as 22 months if I’d only pony $5,000 to wager. His only stipulation was that I provide proof of funds. 

I offered him $10,000 instead, complete with pics of my account balance. 

He of course shut down. 

If you want to watch that dude slowly die inside on this thread, I recommend checking out this link:

That dude literally went months without answering emails and messages yet found the time to go on this thread today and troll the people he’s swindled. 

Im seriously starting to think maybe we should band together and try to press charges on this guy. He’s clearly committing fraud and he seems to relish in other people’s misery. 

How  many of us are still waiting on our orders? I feel like if we could provide documentation as to the extent of this fraud, that we’d be able to make some headway in the courts. I’m willing to cover any legal expenses for the group, including hiring a lawyer if we need. 

At this point I don’t even care about the money this guy stole from me, or that he’s ignored my emails. I don’t even mind that he’s called me retarded when he has messaged me. I just want to see this righted. This guy’s a criminal, and the fact that he’s been defrauding people since at least January 2017 shows a pattern of behavior that’s unlikely to change anytime soon. This guy has no morals. He doesn’t even respond to public shaming. Legal proceedings are a final resort, but a reasonable one given the extent of his bad behavior. 

Furthermore, artists need to know how he treats fans. I wonder how many of them would want to sign to a label that is so sketchy and offensive. 

What’s everyone’s thoughts on trying to press charges? It’s true that we’re talking about many small transactions, but given that they involve credit cards, the internet, interstate commerce, etc. I’m sure it meets the threshold to be considered a felony. 

Even if if we could just get a total dollar amount stolen of a few thousand bucks, I think we can get this guy prosecuted. 

Anyone else with me on this?

Edit:

I feel the need to point out that he’s been nonfilling preorders from his label for the last two years or so at least. Based on comments I’ve seen here and on other sites, it’s entirely possible this guy has stolen tens of thousands of dollars since the winter of 2016/2017. It may seem small when any one of us gets taken for $30, but on the aggregate, this guy has made out like a bandit. To be clear: just because he’s stolen money in dribs and drabs doesn’t mean that this isn’t in actuality a pretty sizable fraud case. 

So Todd has been responding to a bunch of my comments on Reddit if anyone needs to get in touch with that guy. He apparently doesn’t have time to fill all the orders he took for this release but he’s got tons of time to engage in a stupid internet spat #priorities. 

He’s user u/OESBEE4 in case anyone needs to reach out. 

https://www.reddit.com/user/OESBEE4/

1 hour ago, GazHilarant said:

Bundle is back up with slipmat

Sold out

http://climbmountanalog.com/products-page/experimental/yves-tumor-safe-in-the-hands-of-love-2lp/

if anyone one still needs this there are more copies up now at mount analog. 

I missed the clear version of this when it was available on Bleep’s site, but just saw it’s up on Tough Trade. Thought some folks here may be looking for it. 

https://www.roughtrade.com/us/music/yves-tumor-safe-in-the-hands-of-love