brad Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 well that's incredibly skewed by the amount of players who couldn't quite make it. I would be interesting to see the average retire age for players who are playing at least until after 25 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbypuckett Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 FYISo far I only received records from the following people: Drabley Vitty Vitty's buddy Antoine Missing: Thrillo, Brad, Swanky, Mike wait, mike as in me? I didnt know i was doing this, i thought i was too late or something Maybe? Is there another Mike here? Check the link in Brad's sig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 well that's incredibly skewed by the amount of players who couldn't quite make it.I would be interesting to see the average retire age for players who are playing at least until after 25 years old. its not skewed at all, its taking the full data of all retired players, and if a lot of players retire young, it just shows the sport is tough to last in. excluding them would skew the data, but if you want to know, at least a rough idea, just add up the numbers of each age, and then divide the total amongst the number of ages represented. I really don't care about the average age of players who could make it, I want to know the average age of a hockey player, and if a majority of them can't cut it, then the statistics are valid as shown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 do you even know what a skewed graph looks like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 This graph is skewed this graph, the one on average retirement age, is NOT skewed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 well, since you seem to have taken offense...the graph on the bottom is actually skewed right. I guess what I mean to say is that, you asked a question about the average retirement age and were surprised by the "young age" i guess i'll say that the data is a little inflated with young guys retiring which lowers the age number significantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 FWIW...there was a "mike" who offered up The Disappeared - A Realization of Hope 7" + CD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 well, since you seem to have taken offense...the graph on the bottom is actually skewed right.I guess what I mean to say is that, you asked a question about the average retirement age and were surprised by the "young age" i guess i'll say that the data is a little inflated with young guys retiring which lowers the age number significantly. im not offended as much as I am annoyed. you always, always, have to have your correcting input on everything. you can't just leave something be, you have to find some reason to say basically say "youre wrong" to anything posted ever. you always have to find a way to be the person that knows it all. did you even bother to read the authors interpretation of the statistics? probably not, so i'll just quote it for you so you can read it. These stats are not complete either, they do not include any retirements beyond the lockout, so the numbers and graphs will shift further to the right as more players are playing longer into their careers. Although its not entirely transparent from the break down above, it is safe to say that the retirement distribution is gradually shifting to the right as players and goalies are playing to an older age.Some indication of this can already be seen on the charts constructed for 2000/01 - 2003/04 seasons, and when we add players who we know retired in their 40s such as Steve Yzerman, Brett Hull, Tommy Albelin and Dave Andreychuck as well as those who are yet to retire e.g. Chris Chelios, Teppo Numminen and Gary Roberts, we can start to sketch what the distribution for 2000s will look like once complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 a friend just told me that Hudler is jumping ship to the KHL for a 2 year deal in moscow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 a friend just told me that Hudler is jumping ship to the KHL for a 2 year deal in moscow. Saw that rumor on TSN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 he's what, 24? that seems awfully young! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 he's what, 24? that seems awfully young! Yeah, he turned 25 this January. Seems like a bad career move but he is Czech, maybe he'd prefer to be closer to home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 tax-free money too, so I mean, if he gets 8 mil there, he GETS 8 mil... where as in the states he'd maybe get 70% of it? if that? after taxes ad such Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 plus, he won the cup at 23, so really, maybe thats all he wanted to get out of the NHL. the KHL could have offered him some serious money... far more than the NHL probably could/would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 tax-free money too, so I mean, if he gets 8 mil there, he GETS 8 mil... where as in the states he'd maybe get 70% of it? if that? after taxes ad such Actually, less than 70% but the ability to obtain the things you would want to make 8 million for is higher in the States I would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 with taxes and agent/management % fees, yeah, it would be less than 70%. Versteeg signed a 3 year deal with chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbypuckett Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 TSN is saying Hudler is looking at a $2/mil contract over there. He'd get more in arbitration here I bet. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=284076 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbypuckett Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/darren_dreger/?id=284062 If Chris Pronger retires with term and salary remaining on his contract after next season, does his money stay on the Flyers' cap? There's some confusion today in Philadelphia over that simple question. According to the NHL, the answer is yes. The seven-year, $35 million extension Pronger agreed to on Tuesday doesn't commence until after June 30, 2010. Pronger will be 35 at that point and any remaining salary will remain on the cap. The Flyers disagree and interpret the CBA language governing the "over 35" clause differently. Sources say the Flyers' lawyers are now aware of the league's stance and are debating this issue. Chris Pronger turns 35 on October 10, almost a full year before his seven-year extension with the Flyers kicks in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Niittymaki heading to the KHL too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Koivu signed with the Ducks, 1 year, 3.25 Million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 and brian boyle is a ranger now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaime Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 and brian boyle is a ranger now yea hes been one for about a week, maybe two. id like to see him start playing like he is expected to. maybe a re-location is whats needed since he didnt do much out west. im a fan of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 and brian boyle is a ranger now yea hes been one for about a week, maybe two. id like to see him start playing like he is expected to. maybe a re-location is whats needed since he didnt do much out west. im a fan of him Rangers got him for a 3rd round pick a little bit after the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 fine - it's a graph that says nothing of importance then. http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/darren_dreger/?id=284062If Chris Pronger retires with term and salary remaining on his contract after next season, does his money stay on the Flyers' cap? There's some confusion today in Philadelphia over that simple question. According to the NHL, the answer is yes. The seven-year, $35 million extension Pronger agreed to on Tuesday doesn't commence until after June 30, 2010. Pronger will be 35 at that point and any remaining salary will remain on the cap. The Flyers disagree and interpret the CBA language governing the "over 35" clause differently. Sources say the Flyers' lawyers are now aware of the league's stance and are debating this issue. Chris Pronger turns 35 on October 10, almost a full year before his seven-year extension with the Flyers kicks in. even if the "over 35" rule applies I still think its a great contract and they need the extra two years to lower he cap hit. pronger seems to want to finish out the contract...if he does its a moot point if he can't, he will get thrown on LTIR and there won't be a cap hit. ***** lets put it this way, I would much rather have him at a cap hit of 4.92 than a cap hit of 6.5+. the extra million and a half can go right into the braydon coburn fund next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drabley Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I think this whole cap manipulation is bullshit and is contrary to the spirit of parity it was to instill. You're either getting paid 10m per season or you're not. I don't pay taxes based on my average salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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