xfedaykinx Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 are we talking about the five iron frenzy record? if so, you are sorely mistaken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakland Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Big Drill Car -- Batch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclz Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 also i wouldn't consider tgset a pop-punk record. personally i think that kerplunk! is the best pop-punk album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyk36 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I'm spinning None More Black's File Under Black...this is the perfect pop punk album in my opinion. 'CAUSE I WAS BORN IN NEW JERSEY!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclz Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 none more black isn't a pop punk band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyk36 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 ^^^eh, that's kind of subjective, I mean, I find them to have some kind of pop sensibilities.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minty Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 ^^^eh, that's kind of subjective, I mean, I find them to have some kind of pop sensibilities.... Yeah, but I would definitely not consider that record to be pop-punk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediocore Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Big Drill Car -- Batch The plot thickens... nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruins4ever Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 This is my favorite Larry Arms CD. It's incredibly melancholy, but hopeful throughout the whole thing. It's not the best pop-punk CD (that has to be Dookie IMO) but this is one of my faves. It's the first Lawrence Arms CD I heard, so that may have something to do with it. Also, if any one has this on burgundy.... you know who to call. That record is beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hickey Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 also i wouldn't consider tgset a pop-punk record. personally i think that kerplunk! is the best pop-punk album wrong. it is a pop-punk record through and through. also dookie is better than kerplunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadetapplesauce Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 i could see how some people would not see this record as a pop punk album. lawrence arms are kind of hard to define. they are a pop punk band, and they definitely have poppy melodies coating every song. but, at least to me, they have a little extra something that just sets them apart. it's most evident on this album. while they could write a song like porno and snuff films, which is pretty much the same two chords the whole song, they also have songs like fireflies and raw and searing flesh where the guitar playing is just stuff you would not expect in a pop punk album. at least i wouldnt. because pop punk to me is the ramones and screeching weasel. it may be a bold statement to make, but with this record, i would consider them to be on the same level as jawbreaker in terms of taking pop punk and just fucking with it, injecting healthy amounts of depression, literary/pop culture references, and alcohol. this record is so moody. and while i'm still not sure if i'd call this album a pop punk record, it definitely is one of the best albums i've heard. but i probably just haven't listened to enough music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valentine Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 i will back that 100% Gabe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flicker Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 well, you could even make a case for adding the folk sub-genre to it and call it pop folk-punk. But then again i am all for making genres as long and as unwieldy as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadetapplesauce Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 and i mean, while oh calcutta was not at all as moody as this one, apathy and exhaustion was the perfect precursor to this, even though i'm sure when it came out people weren't expecting something so profound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minty Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I've honestly never thought of Greatest Story as pop punk, but saying that, I've never really tried to put it into a genre. It's quite a mix of different styles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclz Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 also i wouldn't consider tgset a pop-punk record. personally i think that kerplunk! is the best pop-punk album wrong. it is a pop-punk record through and through. also dookie is better than kerplunk actually i agree, i don't know why i said kerplunk. insomniac is my favorite green day record, but i would not consider that a pop punk record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyregret Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 that's true. apparently the new ataris album is supposed to be in the vein of blue skies. we'll see how that ends up though. ugh, that last one was intolerable, i have very low hopes. in all honesty, I think that welcome the night will become the pinkerton of the 2000's, in that it had initial backlash for being something completely different but that will turn into appreciation and inspiration over the years. i've said this to people before, but it wasn't until i saw the ataris on the welcome the night tour that I completely understood what he was going for. those songs live were perfect compliments to the material they played from end is forever, just from different ends of the music spectrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclz Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 and i mean, while oh calcutta was not at all as moody as this one, apathy and exhaustion was the perfect precursor to this, even though i'm sure when it came out people weren't expecting something so profound.a+e is easily their best release along with the songs on the chinkees comp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smailtronic Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 If it's not the best, it's real close to the top of the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
googlemyass Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Which ALK3 album is better? We're talking start to finish, not just key songs. There isn't one dud on The Greatest Story Ever Told. I would argue there's not a single dud on Maybe I'll Catch Fire or From Here to Infirmary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knealey Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Greatest story is flawless. The liner notes are key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skumbucket Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 totally a flawless album. in my top ten favourites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pibbals Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I would argue there's not a single dud on Maybe I'll Catch Fire or From Here to Infirmary. Neither of those stuck out to me that much. Goddamnit really stuck with my, but I hate when Dan sings on any of the songs on that album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hickey Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 i could see how some people would not see this record as a pop punk album. lawrence arms are kind of hard to define. they are a pop punk band, and they definitely have poppy melodies coating every song. but, at least to me, they have a little extra something that just sets them apart. it's most evident on this album. while they could write a song like porno and snuff films, which is pretty much the same two chords the whole song, they also have songs like fireflies and raw and searing flesh where the guitar playing is just stuff you would not expect in a pop punk album. at least i wouldnt. because pop punk to me is the ramones and screeching weasel. it may be a bold statement to make, but with this record, i would consider them to be on the same level as jawbreaker in terms of taking pop punk and just fucking with it, injecting healthy amounts of depression, literary/pop culture references, and alcohol. this record is so moody. and while i'm still not sure if i'd call this album a pop punk record, it definitely is one of the best albums i've heard.but i probably just haven't listened to enough music. I agree with a lot of this...but determining what is pop-punk is all based on perception. To me, the majority of punk out there falls into the pop punk category. The Lawrence Arms are pop punk, Jawbreaker was pop punk, NOFX is pop punk, MTX, Crimpshrine, Screeching Weasel, Ramones...the list could go on and on. It's all a matter of perception. I guess the question is: What about The Greatest Story Ever Told by The Lawrence Arms makes it NOT a pop punk album? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minty Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I guess the question is: What about The Greatest Story Ever Told by The Lawrence Arms makes it NOT a pop punk album? I just don't think it sounds like pop-punk. Of course there are lots of parts of songs that are really "poppy" but I think the only real pop-punk song on the album is Alert The Audience. I personally think the album in general is too dark and musically deep to be classed as that, if that makes any sense. I don't even know how I'd describe it myself apart from "Amazing". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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