Tardcore Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 FWIW I keep a space heater next to my setup to maximize warmth. An old toothbrush is good enough for detailing. don't let these snobs tell you any different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwingstars Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 This may be a little late, but I recently bought an Edwards Audio phono preamp from Music Direct. It was reasonable at $175 and sounds great. I have it paired up with a Jolida 202B tube amp and it sounds great. Highly recommended if you are on a budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3arl Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Such an unwarranted, unkind comment from a senior member of the community. I have ears like the rest of you. Maybe not ears trained on a $1000+ system but I know enough what kind of sound I want to get if I"m spending over $700 on music playing devices. Thanks for sharing your experience in helping me decide what pre-amps in this price range would give me close to what I want rather than insulting me. I appreciate it! if you want help/advice from people who know what they're talking about, then part of that is them calling you on your shit. instead of whining about it, realize you're learning terminology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefence2113 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 if you want help/advice from people who know what they're talking about, then part of that is them calling you on your shit. instead of whining about it, realize you're learning terminology. You have a point, but the comment in question was neither warranted nor informative. biodigitaljazz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biodigitaljazz Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Yawn. I'm no baby. It's just funny that I'm full of shit when I'm trying to learn like anybody else on here. ronthedial 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Yawn. I'm no baby. It's just funny that I'm full of shit when I'm trying to learn like anybody else on here. Then actually use this as a tool to learn, not spout off words trying to feign audio knowledge. And again, learn to get your balls busted. Tardcore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 You have a point, but the comment in question was neither warranted nor informative. We get it. You thought my post gave someone's feelings an ouchie. I'll go to time out. Tardcore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biodigitaljazz Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Then actually use this as a tool to learn, not spout off words trying to feign audio knowledge. And again, learn to get your balls busted. Well, you havent accomplished anything, except wasting everyone's time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Nice edit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzyb Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Haha wow. Anyways, decided on the project phono box s. Anyone know the cheapest place for us Canadian folk to buy one? Where are you located? If you're in Toronto, there's a store called My Kind of Music that sells them at a decent price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biodigitaljazz Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Nice edit. I'd still like to hear what you genuinely have to say on warmth and detail, if you'd like to share. Like you said, learning experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 These aren't meaningless adjectives. "Warm" in audio terms refers to having a thicker low midrange and rolled off highs. This tends to also be the definition of "the tube sound". This can often be more listenable and less ear fatiguing than a colder, more analytical and detailed, sound (which is what people mean by "sounding solid state"). This is all gear dependent. You usually want some balance, whatever sounds good to your ears. This is where "system synergy" comes into play. Warmth and detail were explained very well here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biodigitaljazz Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Right. Considering picking up the Emotiva instead of the Cambridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Right. Considering picking up the Emotiva instead of the Cambridge. I'd like to hear your back to back opinion on those two. The Emotiva isn't really available over here but they look very good value so I'd like to hear someone’s opinion against something I do know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Why do you say it's not available over there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 It's probably available here but not widely, it's not one where I would be able to borrow one from one of the suppliers I know for evaluation. I'd like to hear one or two opinions against stuff i'm familiar with before I pulled the trigger. I've heard a few good reviews and one or two which say it's a bit bass heavy, which can of course be cartridge or loading related but if I can't easily hear one myself without buying one I like to do my research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I could be wrong, but I think Emotiva gives you 30 days... but I guess you don't want to lose out on shipping. I don't think stores really carry them. I think they're direct sales only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biodigitaljazz Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I won't be able to compare the two to each other, since it's my first preamp, and I'm only buying one… i'm still undecided. I suppose I want warm over detail. But I guess overall, like someone else said, your whole set up is what provides some sort of balance. I'll be pairing it with a debut carbon, and, for the time being, the audio engines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevorxramage Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 It's hard to go wrong with an Emotiva XPS-1. I've been wanting to give this thing a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I could be wrong, but I think Emotiva gives you 30 days... but I guess you don't want to lose out on shipping. I don't think stores really carry them. I think they're direct sales only. From what I have read the Emotiva kit has a good following and they look a good company but yes 30 days would easily get eaten up in shipping in both directions. Oh well I shall just have to keep reading. I won't be able to compare the two to each other, since it's my first preamp, and I'm only buying one… i'm still undecided. I suppose I want warm over detail. But I guess overall, like someone else said, your whole set up is what provides some sort of balance. I'll be pairing it with a debut carbon, and, for the time being, the audio engines Ok, I thought you already had the Cambridge, as above I'll rind some reviews somewhere to base a decision on I'm sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tardcore Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Emotiva only deals direct as far as I know. You should try contacting them. They would likely give you 30 days from date you receive the item for review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Emotiva only deals direct as far as I know. You should try contacting them. They would likely give you 30 days from date you receive the item for review. OK thanks for that, I'm going to try and find a few more reviews before I try it, with the vagaries of shipping over great distances and with customs men involved it worries me a bit about taking something on a sale or return basis. Maybe I could find a 2nd hand one depending on price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roygbiv Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 May just be me but I'm a sucker for vintage Quad stuff and you can usually pick it up for decent prices my full setup of a Quad 44 pre-amp, Quad 450-2 Power amp and Quad FM4 tuner cost about £300 in total and only needed a little bit of TLC and elbow grease to bring it back up to scratch. You can usually nab a well looked after and serviced quad pre-amp for anything between £100-£200 depends on what model you go for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 May just be me but I'm a sucker for vintage Quad stuff and you can usually pick it up for decent prices my full setup of a Quad 44 pre-amp, Quad 450-2 Power amp and Quad FM4 tuner cost about £300 in total and only needed a little bit of TLC and elbow grease to bring it back up to scratch. You can usually nab a well looked after and serviced quad pre-amp for anything between £100-£200 depends on what model you go for. The OP is asking about a separate phono stage, they are quite often referred to as pre amps or phono pre's now which can cause quite a bit of confusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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