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i mean it's really about what you want to believe at this point...we don't know exactly when/if he was using but the evidence suggests something sure could have been up just because the alleged evidence isn't from 2004-2006 doesn't mean he was not using then...remember HGH still is not tested for, it's honor system (haha) at the very least you have to look at Maddux's latter years against Clemens and wonder i guess? i mean, you only show his numbers from 96 to current... are his numbers before 96 in the 180+ range consistantly? or are they in the 100 - 140 range that is average? if every few years he has those spurts where he's 200+, then I wouldn't think anything of it, even at his age... and even then, I still dont. he's been unreal his entire career his own way, like maddux and glavine were in their own ways, finding ways to dominate and win.

so even the years of the alleged HGH steroid stuff these were clemens numbers... average. i don't get why he can't have improved for those two years? 05 was in Houston? 06 was in NY? 99 - 103 00 - 130 01 - 128 02 - 102 03 - 112

uhh, except he's the only candidate that hasn't taken a penny from corporations but keep worrying about $1000 from some wackjob white power group instead of hundreds of thousands from big business interests going to virtually every other candidate because ALL corporations and big business are evil and out to get the man... do you support ron paul?

i don't know what an ERA+ is. I know what an ERA is... Maddux/Glavine > Clemens I dont know if you have ESPN insider, so i'll just cut/paste this blog article Appreciating Maddux, Glavine posted: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 | Print Entry In time, more names will come out, and some, like Roger Clemens, will have time to prove their innocence. But as we look askew at all the numbers and records and glory of "The Steroid Era," two men born three weeks apart in 1966, drafted in the same second round in 1984, and, ironically, paired for the infamous "chicks dig the long ball" commercial seem even greater today than they did when the 2007 season ended. At this point in sports history, we cannot assume anyone's innocence, but no one has ever tied Greg Maddux or Tom Glavine to any scandal involving steroids, HGH or anything else. We have watched Maddux extend his career creating new pitches to mix with a fastball that on its good days hit 83 mph on the radar gun. And we have watched Glavine stoically speed-walk to 303 wins; only in the last two years has he adjusted to coming inside with his fastball and changeup and using his curveball better. And here they are, without one question raised about whether or not they belong in Cooperstown. Before they retire in the next year or two, if they remain unquestioned, then their first-ballot elections may produce a higher percentage than one can now imagine. They will be held up as a couple of guys who won with resolution, creativity and guile in an era of power pitching and hitting. If Clemens does not pitch again, Maddux in 2008 likely will get the eight wins he needs to surpass Clemens' career total of 354. Look, this is not a referendum on Clemens' staunch claim that he will prove the Brian McNamee testimony to George Mitchell to be false and that his 354 wins are unstained. But when Maddux first pitched in the majors in September of 1986, Clemens was already wrapping up his first Cy Young; since that debut, Maddux has actually won 39 more games than Clemens. Since Glavine made his debut the following August, he has one more win than Roger, 303-302. Granted, Maddux and Glavine pitched for some very good teams, but Maddux has won four Cy Young Awards, with one second- and two third-place finishes. Glavine has two Cy Young Awards, one second-place finish and two thirds, and he closed out the 1995 World Series with a one-hitter. Maddux led the league in wins thrice, Glavine five times. Maddux led the league in innings pitched five straight years, from 1991 through 1995, and seven times led the league in games started. Glavine led the league in games started six times. Maddux won at least 15 games 17 years in a row and threw at least 200 innings 14 straight seasons. And those 2.18/2.36/1.56/1.63 ERAs in consecutive years in the mid-'90s, when offenses became inflated, are simply astounding. There was perhaps no one greater than Pedro Martinez during his prime in the American League East, but Maddux, at age 41, has stayed out there for all those innings to make his run at Clemens. If Maddux starts 10 games next season, he will have started more games than anyone but Cy Young, Nolan Ryan and Don Sutton. Warren Spahn, Steve Carlton and Eddie Plank are the only left-handers to have ever won more games than Glavine. Cubs pitching coach Larry Rothschild maintains that Maddux may be the only pitcher who essentially invented two pitches -- the cutting fastball that rides either back over the inside corner to right-handed batters or over the outside backdoor corner to lefties -- as well as throwing the changeup inside, a practice that was taboo for generations. Ask Derek Lowe or Chris Young or any young pitcher who'll listen, and they'll tell you how Maddux changed the way they watch games, study hitters and pitch. He won 14 games last season for the Padres with stuff that most amateur scouts would classify as "Josh Towers -- tops." This has been a trying time for those who care about the game. We don't know what's real and what isn't, who's lying and who's telling the truth, which rats are telling the truth they so long skirted. We have judged players by their appearances, and in this time have watched Maddux and Glavine go from phenoms who threw in the 90s to guys who figured out somehow, some way to beat hitters while appearing like a couple of insurance salesmen playing golf at the country club. So, on a Christmas when too many lights have burned out and too many stars and ornaments seem to have fallen from the trees, it seems like the right time to put the careers of a couple of 41-year-olds in perspective, and appreciate that if any two players embody the good old days, they are Greg Maddux and Tom Glavine, Hall of Famers.

Yeah, if you're a pseudo-intellectual, former Republican. Ron Paul is crazy. He wants to completely eliminate every government agency, effectively weakening the Federal government, setting us back over 200 years. His selling point is that these the government is too big and unconstitutional, but its not as simple as that. add to the fact that he will take money from anyone and everyone, including white power groups. thats awesome. sike.

you're missing the point not a single one of those pitchers posted their BEST season (or career years) at age 42 like Clemens did they all pitched well late in their careers but they all also exhibited a natural decline, whereas Clemens did the exact opposite Nolan Ryan didn't have any career years in his 40s... and clemens had 9 SEASONS better than what he had in 2004... the pitchers I listed all had "career years" at 40+ in the same sense that they were great years but not their best. same for clemens.

Troy, did you know brave new world in pittsburgh closed/sold its store to someone and its re-opening with a new name? I just found this out... total bummeR!

Two words: NOLAN RYAN I'm not defending Clemens at all, but it can be done. here, i'll give you more people who have done it who are still doing it and will continue to do it. Randy Johnson (290 SO at age 40) Kenny Rogers (42, but prior to last season he was still pitching 200 IN a season) The Atlanta Trio of: Tom Glavine Greg Maddux John Smoltz (14 - 8, 197 SO, 3.11 ERA at age 40!) Mike Mussina (only 38... but he's been pitching 17 years now) Curt Shilling (just turned 40, but may still come back for more years) Jamie Moyer (44! minus his ERA he had a pretty good season!)

its not like clinton was far behind... 38, 29, 29 was the percentages for the top 3 democrats. she was behind edwards by a few hundredths of a percentage. my girlfriend is a history teacher, really REALLY loved studying the 60's and the Kennedy Era and she said that things are in process like they were then for Obama. Really excited! He's all about change, which is not what clinton would be since it'd be one of the same two families in office since 1988, just alternating between clinton and bush. you realize that? 1987 was the last time someone not in those families was our president... 20 years.

I'll give you that. A win tonight would definitely legitimize KU's season. kansas won, let the legitimizing begin

I am so down. baseball > all other sports.

USC has arguably the worst loss of any BCS-conference team this year (they were 40+ point favorites vs. Stanford AT HOME). However... I think the top three teams are Georgia, USC, and LSU (in no order). OSU has no business playing for the championship. no WVU in that mix? I thought they were pretty hot this year, especially when the Big East had 5 teams ranked and they beat them all minus South Florida.. And, did you know there is talk in morgantown that Rich Rod had talked to UMich prior to the Pitt game about the job opening... and since they lost and didn't go to the NC game he could leave immediately... looking at the playcalls for that pitt/wvu game, it really looks sketchy... zero plays for owen schmidt, the same 4 offensive shuffle passes... zero deep plays... its like they handed the panthers that upset... they got beat at home by a 4 - 7 team... stepping out of the smoke on this one, it looks weird.

The only other ranked team KU even played was Kansas St., who, although ranked 24 at the time, finished 5-7 and lost 73-31 to lowly Nebraska. KU killed Nebraska 76-39 or something retarded like that.

KU lost to Missouri... they shouldn't even be in the BCS (well, actually, they should've replaced Hawaii). missouri was #4 when they beat Kansas for their ONLY LOSS, not unranked like Arkansas.

OSU will win on monday. They should be playing Kansas and LSU should be playing V Tech.

Did anyone watch last nights game? WVU vs OU? what a fucking game. My girlfriend's family is from WV, they grew up with Rich Rod, the coach who left WVU a month ago for Michigan, and man, let me tell you, last night was probably the best game WVU has played in years when looking at who they were matched up against. Just wanted to see what anyone else thought of the game last night... a top ranked run defense against the top run offense.. Devine is going to be in the pro's in 3 years and will be un-fucking-believable. College Football season is over for me now, I won't be watching another game until august, LSU being in the national champ game after losing two games to unranked teams is fucking shit. OSU will win, les miles will regret not going to michigan and WVU will win the BCS next year under Stewart while rich rod begins all over in the big blue.

LETANG IS LIGHTS OUT! fuck that game was AWESOME!

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oh, and what is the dimensions of the converge/108 tour poster? I can't remember the size and i am getting it framedz

so.... how do I put video's on the itouch? like converting from AVI to the format that iTouch uses? I got one for xmas, and i'd prefer to just put the stuff that i have yet to watch so i can watch on my way to work! lemme knowwwwwwwwwwwww

i haven't seen this record for sale really anywhere and its one of my favs that i don'r own!

cancer con? cancer conspiracy?

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