captainreiss

Yes I am pretty sure f2f will be sooner

It is mayhem right now, I hope it calms down a bit, but most elements of pressing are squeezed with supply and transport shortages.

I don't think F2F is correct

40 minutes ago, Dub said:

Looks like all prices went up

Not surprised, for years FAT had been like 4-5 bucks cheaper than everyone else and with shipping and raw materials being at an all time high now I don't think it is sustainable.

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Gotta take your mat off the platter to play it. 

Actually you don't.

They are not unlimited.

Assuming that most of the people signing up will keep the exclusive vinyl, the cost of the whole year is likely cheaper than the ebay flipper prices if one turns up. Was a no brainer for me...

22 hours ago, SpaceAmbient said:

It's because on the 25th anniversary stuff, they left pre-orders open for a week or a month and then ordered however many copies they needed after the fact. So the production time gets extended. Where-as the other releases Fat orders a specific amount ahead of time and by the time we pre-order them, they are already in production queue.

 

I don't work for Fat, so this is all hypothesis.

Sounds logical. I also think represses like Larry Arms are easier as there is no time pressure to release, FAT probably just list them when they are ready so they ship straight away.

What a beauty!

2 hours ago, Fowty Dollaz said:

Lots of variants. Lots of cash.

Hm, do you think there will be more than FDE or Ribbed?  

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Seems like this album should've been called Raking It In. Or maybe even Rake It In as that's what I was thinking of.

What do you mean?

Stoked.

Yellow and black split would be rad!

Stoked this finally sees the light of day.

I imagine it will look better than NUFAN. There is hoping.

6 variants:

KRM Europe

SBAM Europe

TMOM Merch (BCBC offical)

Thousand Island Records Canada

Smart Punk USA

Prorawk USA

I don't have the links, but Google will be your friend...

On 10/28/2020 at 10:28 PM, Steady7 said:

I see that Fat is postponing shipping until after the election. I was looking back in this thread to see if people had got their Get Dead Lps yet and didnt see any indication that they have. I see a few on Ebay, just wondering if there are still people waiting? Says shipping late Oct on Fats site.

Not sure if what you see on ebay is actually records in hand, seems like there are resellers just taking orders. I don't think they shipped yet. The whole import into US is still seriously messed up.... looks like these are from GZ, judging by the sleeve of the EURO Retail...

6 year bump!

On 10/21/2020 at 8:47 AM, Iggy_Pilot said:

Thank you for this correction. Does Packaged Sounds own record presses or is it a broker/manufacturer and uses TD as the pressing plant? Or are the record presses co-owned/shared by both companies?

Bit of both. Packaged Sounds has its own pressing plant in High Wycombe for specialst colour work, so all Store Editions and runs up to 500 records are usually pressed there but also owns machines at the Takt plant which do the larger volume and major label work. It started out as a broker but the plant in UK opened 18months ago.

10 hours ago, Iggy_Pilot said:

Yes, still coming from Europe but not from GZ anymore. Fat Wreck switched to Takt Direct. Way better quality - particularly the lacquer cut/mastering/sound which is terrible when cut in-house by GZ. But also the cover has a higher quality than the GZ ones.

Not Takt Direct..., they are pressed by Packaged Sounds who use the same cutting lathe as TD. I agree on sound and sleeve quality. 

And this is why VC is still the best place to come to for interesting discussions.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the question that Rattapa asked was neither if the record is really worth that much nor if someone here would buy it...

The question was simply that of "Is a rare record worth even more only because it is sealed?"

Jimmarcucci was actually on the right track. A sealed record is like Schrodingers Cat. You simply don't know what is inside and what state it is in. It could have been sitting there in mint for all these years and it also could be a battered old disc that has been resealed for sale. I have a shrink tunnel here at work I can seal all my records, who would know.

And you also don't buy the record for the cover, you would want to see the disc and make sure it has the right matrix number and the pressing is of good quality without manufacturing defects.

I have this conundrum a lot of times on ebay as well as Discogs. Someone has a reasonably collectable record on colour at a top end price. He claims that because it is unopen and sealed. Now I am a colour variant collector, so if there is a clear burgundy press of a record, there is bound to be a more blue one due to the mixing of the vinyl. In the initial manufacturing you get a handful of colour transitions  So that blue would be for me very collectable, whilst the burgundy is common a blue may be very rare. So I will not take a punt on buying a sealed copy if I only be ending up with a burgundy again. Equally how does a seller know that it is even on colour? Especially if the release date is some time ago?

For me a sealed record is never attractive to buy so I remove myself from the buyers market. Now the laws of capitalism say something on supply and demand, if I remove myself I reduce demand. Ergo the price should drop as supply stays the same with less people competing over buying it, but that is only half of it...

So it would be interesting to hear how many people would rather buy sealed and therefore make up of me dropping out in this scenario, to see if this will alter demand in the other direction.

I dealt with ThreeStoats outside VC, totally backed.

Hmm, I know it is frowned upon and certainly not cool, yet I don't think this makes the guy a terrible buyer or a scam artist.

I would be annoyed and probably send a few stern words down the ether, but as bake says, technically he can do what he wants with them.

You had some recovery? He got away with the $115 I sent. But it seems petty to pursue in light of the life he took.

Yes I was lucky enough to stick to Paypal rules. He had a really hard time with being in hospital for a tooth abscess for the first 10 of the 45 days, and then after his brother got arrested and his grandma died. As by that time it must have been grannie number 8 and brother number 4 (going by previous claims of his) I figured that this guy has all the bad luck inthe world so it does not really get much worse having a paypal claim added.

He promptly shipped the records albeit with one wrong LP that I had to return. The one that was missing I opted for a refund, which Paypal did once the wrong one was returned. I bought $350 worth of records and in the end I was down $15 for the return postage, but I have a story to tell.

Care to elaborate? 

This is well documented in this thread. Search for Rick Angley in the top search bar for this topic to get the general idea then click the link below and get a stiff drink. You would not believe the story...

I got scammed and Deep Blue did too, we had some recovery but that was only records. For the hard part read on and follow the links contained.

http://boards.vinylcollective.com/topic/55777-gimme-my-drugs-on-ebay/

Yep, got stuck in traffic and missed the PRE-ORDER. Very bummed.

I know it was one per customer, but if anyone has regrets buying it, wants to sell it on or simply wants to make a quick profit, I would be very obliged to take it off you.

Thanks