celebdeath Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 hell, i like the fact that labels press and repress records. i'm usually too late for the initial pressing, get very sad coz i missed out and then 6 months down the track, become happy again coz the label repressed it! yay! i now get to buy a copy, from the label, directly financially supporting the band rather than supporting some ebay tout. i also very much like the fact i can choose a variation i like best. this guy is a bit of a twit, in that as explained in posts above, he dont know much about independent record labels AND dont know much about the mentality of vinyl purchasers. i'm gonna say: GO SOUTHERN LORD GO HYDRAHEAD GO MATADOR GO TEMPORARY RESIDENCE not-so go Inoxia coz they dont repress... :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadbeat52 Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 These labels put out all those variants because they know that their core fans are gonna buy them. I don't believe any of these indy labels put these records out and not sell, the blogger is full of shit on that one. He does come off kinda biter but he does have a point about the ridiculous amount of 'limited' presses. To each his own, but I can't see why anyone would want more than 1 copy of their favorite record unless your a DJ and need 2-3 copies to mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skumbucket Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I can't see why anyone would want more than 1 copy of their favorite record unless your a DJ and need 2-3 copies to mix. that's because nobody does. but i put in a comment on the original blog linked here saying that the only record i own multiple copies of i do because it has extreme sentimental value. but i'm not going to buy 40 versions of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 How is it a labels total responsibility to not put out records people will buy? If there's a market there's records. If there's not, then they won't be released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lydiawesome Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I think you guys neglected the fact that this guy "work in a fucking record store." He must know what he's talking about! They teach you everything before you start your retail experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlovecolouredx Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 i already printed and will read again. it's too long but i think it's not waste my time for reading it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabepunktony Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I'm surprised no one has posted this in a response to the original blog. These lyrics come to mind when I hear this guy talk: "You say that you hate capitalism And you won't compromise But when you're out of cigarettes The funny thing is your butt's full of jizz" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 hey buddy, your minimum wage job at a chain record store does not make you a music industry expert, anymore than being a janitor at a hospital makes you capable of doing brain surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youthcrewalex Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 what a shit! its pretty fucking simple if people didnt want the records they wouldnt buy them supply and demand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbannon Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 The article is so incorrect that I simply refuse to rebut it in any real way. I will address retail though, as no one seems to and it really needs to be. Retail has been killing itself for a number of years. Retail has always made a ton of profit on releases, much more so than the labels that are providing them. They may play the role of a victim of file sharing, but they were partnered with the Major Label "Suggested Retail Price" Model since it's inception. The system that both Majors and Retailers abused for over a decade. When CDs were insanely priced, these are the ones that benefited. These same retailers came up with a "genius" way to screw labels and bands by selling millions of "Used" (and promotional copies, which they shouldn't be selling, but they still do) albums in a variety of formats over the years. Retail is losing the support of the labels, because this "Used" model does nothing to compensate anyone but the Retailer themselves. Artists lose, labels lose, and in most cases the customers lose because they are paying $6-12 for a "Used" release that they buy from customers for $1 or 2. Again, no compensation goes back to the labels and bands when they double and triple sell releases. Something seems a bit flawed in that system. These same retailers do all of us independent labels "favors" by making us purchase placement on their shelves, literally. Then if they don't sell these releases that we pay to get into their stores, we get them back, and they still get their check. Again, something seems a bit flawed in that system in my opinion. Independent labels are becoming more and more self sufficient, offering interesting/unique packages direct, and are taking steps to simply cut them out completely. As an artist and label owner, I'd rather offer an honest and quality release direct via an Independent label, than spend more time/effort playing their bullshit game filled with fake victims and fairweather support. There are some fantastic Retailers out there, but they really are few and far between. -J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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