Guest kevinb Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 That's why people sell stuff on ebay for money right? sure it might be kind of dumb to depend on that $ but that is why I am selling stuff to get money for a show. I guess it just kind of sucks that you are "entering a contract" yet when anything ever go's wrong it is put on the seller, and buyer is always right. regardless it's sold and he will still receive a positive feedback, at least he paid for the auction I can appreciate that. Still a lame excuse in my book, If you can't keep track of what you even own or supposedly. Not really a big deal but it is a nice example of how ebay is favoring on buyer end even though it is the seller's they are profiting off of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 The lesson I've learned from this thread: Never make a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
element101 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 haha awesome. that was me. (ebay user id: shitstroll) its not an excuse, I do in fact already have the LP. (check HYE list) though, its funny how you run to VC and complain (cry?) about it. Even though I did ask for a refund, and re-listing an item is only one click a way, if you find it too hard to refund the money to me go ahead and just send it. Not that I have anything you'd want you've just been added to my bad buyer ebay block list. I fucking can't stand people who don't take responsibilty for their mistakes. A major problem with this country. Your the crybaby in my mind. If it's so easy to take care of why didn't you just go through with the binding contract you made and sell it yourself when you get it? Lazy. Lazy. Lazy. Also, this is one of the problems with the ebay feedback situation. The buyer has all the control. He can just threaten bad feedback and their is nothing the seller can do about it. I dont understand this comment. How did he not take Responsibility? He Paid for it. All it seems that he did was ask if he could be refunded for an honest mistake. Some of us have more than 20 records and it gets hard to keep track of them. It seems that he even, in this thread, said he would not take the refund and just have the double. It doesn't seem like either side is in the wrong. They were both pretty straight up about the situation. Things happen. I sold 130ish records last month, I can't even begin to tell you how many people flaked. Even on this board. It happens, and it will continue to happen. But in my mind Impact did it the right way. It would have been more dishonest to buy the record and not pay for it, but he paid and was honest about the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Not that I have anything you'd want you've just been added to my bad buyer ebay block list. I fucking can't stand people who don't take responsibilty for their mistakes. A major problem with this country. Your the crybaby in my mind. If it's so easy to take care of why didn't you just go through with the binding contract you made and sell it yourself when you get it? Lazy. Lazy. Lazy. Also, this is one of the problems with the ebay feedback situation. The buyer has all the control. He can just threaten bad feedback and their is nothing the seller can do about it. I dont understand this comment. How did he not take Responsibility? He Paid for it. All it seems that he did was ask if he could be refunded for an honest mistake. Some of us have more than 20 records and it gets hard to keep track of them. It seems that he even, in this thread, said he would not take the refund and just have the double. It doesn't seem like either side is in the wrong. They were both pretty straight up about the situation. Things happen. I sold 130ish records last month, I can't even begin to tell you how many people flaked. Even on this board. It happens, and it will continue to happen. But in my mind Impact did it the right way. It would have been more dishonest to buy the record and not pay for it, but he paid and was honest about the situation. But the most stand up thing to do is to actually accept the record that you bid on and paid for. That bid is a legally binding contract. He should have just took the record and then resold it himself. Sometimes the seller needs some cash right away, why should the seller suffer because the buyer didn't first check if he owned the record. I've bought plenty of records that I already owned but I followed through on the deal, I wouldn't even dream of asking for a refund. Mostly because I know that's just not right but also I know that if I'm selling something on ebay I usually need quick cash and I can't afford to wait on a new bidder. The fact that Kevin was able to find a new buyer so quickly is a moot point and doesn't change the fact that it is the buyer's responsibility to know what he's buying. This isn't about Kevin or Impact. This is just about what's right and wrong. If it wouldn't have turned out that the buyer was a respected member of this forum there wouldn't even be a discussion, everyone would be telling Kevin that the buyer pulled a dick move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxbemis Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I am actually quite glad that this guy flaked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcm1610 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 The lesson I've learned from this thread: Never make a mistake.It's not that you can't make a mistake, but to make a careless "I'm too lazy to check my records" mistake is no reason for someone else to be inconvenienced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcm1610 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 To expand on that last post... I'm usually one of the first to claim people seem almost eager to call people out for fucking up, like laying on the horn, flipping off, and swearing at someone who cut you off because they didn't see you in a blindspot. Sometimes legitimate mistakes happen. If you're not harmed by it, let it go. But you can't really expect everyone to forgive everything. Not checking beforehand is inexcusable since you really don't have a reason. Either your collection is there, so check, or wait and check when you get home. If you don't want to, buy it with the knowledge that you might already own it and tough it out. It's not the seller's fault you didn't want to risk losing an item you might already have. Tough shit... there's no consequences in today's world. "I'm not undisciplined, I just have ADHD." "I didn't kill anybody, I had temporary insanity." People just have excuses for everything. No one takes ownership for anything. It really is disheartening that society has come to excuse after excuse, and the only way to right the wrong is to sue anyone and everyone until more of society is ruined. Yes, I took this on an incredibly far-fetched tangent, but it's small-scale stuff that leads to us ok'ing the bigger picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listentovinyl Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 this is so retarded. the guy even offers to cover the ebay charges and you STILL have to gripe about it on the internet? i hope your next buyer flakes out too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 this is so retarded. the guy even offers to cover the ebay charges and you STILL have to gripe about it on the internet? i hope your next buyer flakes out too If you think that flaking out on a legally binding contract is an appropriate way to conduct business then you, sir, are retarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 What I will never understand about all of this is how you buy a record you already have. What's so hard about looking through your stuff and seeing if it's there. Or, even easier, checking your list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listentovinyl Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 this is so retarded. the guy even offers to cover the ebay charges and you STILL have to gripe about it on the internet? i hope your next buyer flakes out too If you think that flaking out on a legally binding contract is an appropriate way to conduct business then you, sir, are retarded. big fucking deal, people return ebay purchases all the time, i just did today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listentovinyl Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 What I will never understand about all of this is how you buy a record you already have. What's so hard about looking through your stuff and seeing if it's there. Or, even easier, checking your list. what you really dont understand is what it means to make an honest mistake, which is pretty lame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatsleeprepeat Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 What I will never understand about all of this is how you buy a record you already have. What's so hard about looking through your stuff and seeing if it's there. Or, even easier, checking your list. I've got records spread across 2 states and about 3 or 4 locations. I havent lived in a home for more than 4 month at a time since i was 16ish so i've got stuff at a few peoples houses. Even with my personal collection that i have to my left right now, it about 600 pieces of vinyl and its not organized at all. so by the time I get to the end of it to search for something, the Buy Now listing may have been bought, so I like to secure my purhcase. Obviously I know my major wants and i'm not going to buy a $200 records 5 times over but little purchases happen alot to me. I've never asked anyone over ebay to refund me though. I just resell or trade it, but then you get accused of "flipping" so even if i try to be honest i cant win with some people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 What I will never understand about all of this is how you buy a record you already have. What's so hard about looking through your stuff and seeing if it's there. Or, even easier, checking your list. what you really dont understand is what it means to make an honest mistake, which is pretty lame Honest mistake is fine, but why should it be the SELLER (the guy that DID NOT make any mistakes) that pays the price for that dude's mistake? What we're saying is the buyer needs to own up to his mistake and accept the responsibility of selling/trading that record down the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listentovinyl Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 what you really dont understand is what it means to make an honest mistake, which is pretty lame Honest mistake is fine, but why should it be the SELLER (the guy that DID NOT make any mistakes) that pays the price for that dude's mistake? What we're saying is the buyer needs to own up to his mistake and accept the responsibility of selling/trading that record down the line. thats all a part of doing business. the fact that the seller acted like such a little bitch about it makes him completely unsympathetic, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrc Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 before i had a list i bought a few records that i already owned and i bit the bullet and resold or traded it down the line. Its always been my fault so i have never asked for a refund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxbemis Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Honest mistake is fine, but why should it be the SELLER (the guy that DID NOT make any mistakes) that pays the price for that dude's mistake? What we're saying is the buyer needs to own up to his mistake and accept the responsibility of selling/trading that record down the line. thats all a part of doing business. the fact that the seller acted like such a little bitch about it makes him completely unsympathetic, too. I'd like to bet if someone flaked you like that you would bitch about it too. He was nice enough to actually refund the guy. How do you call that unsympathetic? He can complain, he has every right to be mad, and anyone that gets flaked out of a sale should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listentovinyl Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 nah, id just sell it to the next guy who comes along. id say comming on here and being a bitch about it, and calling the buyer a fucker for asking for a refund warrants no sympathy. but youre probably a crybaby too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240jw Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 What I will never understand about all of this is how you buy a record you already have. What's so hard about looking through your stuff and seeing if it's there. Or, even easier, checking your list. I agree. Especially since you have it on a list, you obviously had internet access at the time, and you can just do a 'find' for it. As for this particular situation, the seller is doing good by offering to refund. I think he's entitled to complain about it. I would, if I just made $23 then the next minute, I didn't. The buyer is also doing his part to help the situation by not insisting a refund or acting like a dick. Just my 2 cents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 who the fuck dose this, by the way is the lamest excuse i've heard in some time."Sorry to bother, but i just realized I already had this LP. Would you mind refunding me my money? For your inconvenience I can give you the amount it cost to list the item." its not an excuse, I do in fact already have the LP. (check HYE list) Dude, why didn't YOU check your HYE list before you bought it. You don't have a gazillion records on there. Plus the record came out a year ago. It's not like you bought it 6 years ago and forgot you owned it. And to KevinB, if this is the worst thing that happens to you on eBay, consider yourself lucky. You both need to wash the sand out of your twats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impact Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 haha awesome. that was me. (ebay user id: shitstroll) its not an excuse, I do in fact already have the LP. (check HYE list) though, its funny how you run to VC and complain (cry?) about it. Even though I did ask for a refund, and re-listing an item is only one click a way, if you find it too hard to refund the money to me go ahead and just send it. Not that I have anything you'd want you've just been added to my bad buyer ebay block list. Oh man, I cant believe this. You've ruined my eBay experience forever. This really bums me out. also, this thread brings the lolz f0sh0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listentovinyl Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 ugh oh, the bad buyer ebay block list! otherwise known as the crybaby security blanket list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faith Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Everyone needs to fucking chill. Seriously. He even offered to give you relisting monies as well. It's not like you lost anything except perhaps a bit of time. Honest mistake, honest e-mail with a honest solution to resolve it. Get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impact Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Everyone needs to fucking chill.Seriously. He even offered to give you relisting monies as well. It's not like you lost anything except perhaps a bit of time. Honest mistake, honest e-mail with a honest solution to resolve it. Get over it. but faith.. it was a LEGAL BINDING CONTRACT. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Records: Serious Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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