AlexH. Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 http://www.davidbazan.com/discography/live-at-electrical-audio/ Bazan, Pedro, and Headphones songs live in the studio. Comes with immediate download. Listening now, and it rules pretty hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottheisel Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 $20 for 10 songs? Yeah, no. This overcharging for LPs really needs to stop. I expect it from major labels, but indies (and dudes like Bazan who are essentially self-releasing stuff) should 100% know better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactusbot Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 +$4 shipping. I would agree. 24ppd for a single LP is absolute ridiculous no matter who the artist is. I usually instantly buy anything Bazan does because I am a fan boy. Not this record though. Going to wait and see if my local store has it cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danalive Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Listened to this whole thing and it rules so much. I love the music, photos, and artwork so much that I will gladly pay $20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmoney Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Bought. Couldn't hold out since Magazine is on it. Listening now and loving it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakland Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 No shit. Remember when CDs were $15.99 and an LP was $7.99? I don't believe materials prices have gone up that much. There's a special ring of hell for people who rip off record collectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottheisel Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 No shit. Remember when CDs were $15.99 and an LP was $7.99? I don't believe materials prices have gone up that much. There's a special ring of hell for people who rip off record collectors. You know, I tended to look the other way before I pressed a record myself, but now, knowing the rough costs to create a record, I have no problem calling bullshit. ESPECIALLY in this case, where Bazan doesn't have to license the music from anyone -- it's all his. $20 is just too damn much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactusbot Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 It's a great record. I've been listening to it for a couple weeks. I love Bazan to death and will be buying a copy of this at some point. But I still fail how to see why it costs $20. Even if it is 180g vinyl and super thick stock gatefold chipboard jackets or something there is no way cost is over $10 per unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 he probably paid for all the time in the studio since the label's not releasing it. he probably also had to pay all the musicians. i'm sure it's not just simple cost per unit. also, we don't know if this is to raise some more money so he can do the next tour, etc... also, maybe they'll be cheaper without the download in the future or at shows... who knows? i trust him, he's never ripped me off before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshnotgood Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 he probably paid for all the time in the studio since the label's not releasing it. he probably also had to pay all the musicians. i'm sure it's not just simple cost per unit. also, we don't know if this is to raise some more money so he can do the next tour, etc... also, maybe they'll be cheaper without the download in the future or at shows... who knows? i trust him, he's never ripped me off before. This makes sense to me, and with an artist that you know is always going to give you something special (and that you can be proud to own), I don't have much issue with the price other than I'm broke most of the time. But I would pay for this, and hopefully will soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactusbot Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 he probably paid for all the time in the studio since the label's not releasing it. he probably also had to pay all the musicians. i'm sure it's not just simple cost per unit. also, we don't know if this is to raise some more money so he can do the next tour, etc... also, maybe they'll be cheaper without the download in the future or at shows... who knows? i trust him, he's never ripped me off before. Almost positive that Barsuk is manufacturing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhythmgtr5 Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 the price is too high for a single LP and I love bazan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmoney Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 This is from Dave's manager: The Live at Electrical Audio LP is a limited run of only 500 LPs. So we had to price it higher to recoup the production costs for the separate vinyl mastering (from hi-res 24/96 audio), creating lacquers, several test pressings, printing album jackets on higher quality matte finish cardboard, etc. We are seeing this as a fan-only kind of release. It's not a big release with a huge marketing and press campaign to promote it. It's a balancing act... trying to print enough to get the per unit costs down, but not too many or else we'll have a lot of left overs and lose money. Curse Your Branches was a much larger release. So the overall production costs could be spread out over more records. Thus, a lower end cost to customers. We could have sent a 16/44 CDr to the vinyl plant and had them cut the LP from that like so many other records. And we could have skipped the extra test pressings, and we could have gone with the cheap glossy album jackets to make the LP a few bucks cheaper. But doing a high quality release seemed like the right thing to do. Hope this explains our reasoning behind the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottheisel Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 This is from Dave's manager:The Live at Electrical Audio LP is a limited run of only 500 LPs. So we had to price it higher to recoup the production costs for the separate vinyl mastering (from hi-res 24/96 audio), creating lacquers, several test pressings, printing album jackets on higher quality matte finish cardboard, etc. We are seeing this as a fan-only kind of release. It's not a big release with a huge marketing and press campaign to promote it. It's a balancing act... trying to print enough to get the per unit costs down, but not too many or else we'll have a lot of left overs and lose money. Curse Your Branches was a much larger release. So the overall production costs could be spread out over more records. Thus, a lower end cost to customers. We could have sent a 16/44 CDr to the vinyl plant and had them cut the LP from that like so many other records. And we could have skipped the extra test pressings, and we could have gone with the cheap glossy album jackets to make the LP a few bucks cheaper. But doing a high quality release seemed like the right thing to do. Hope this explains our reasoning behind the price. Great story. I'm still not paying $20 plus shipping for a single LP of live versions of songs I already own in their original forms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshnotgood Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 This is from Dave's manager:The Live at Electrical Audio LP is a limited run of only 500 LPs. So we had to price it higher to recoup the production costs for the separate vinyl mastering (from hi-res 24/96 audio), creating lacquers, several test pressings, printing album jackets on higher quality matte finish cardboard, etc. We are seeing this as a fan-only kind of release. It's not a big release with a huge marketing and press campaign to promote it. It's a balancing act... trying to print enough to get the per unit costs down, but not too many or else we'll have a lot of left overs and lose money. Curse Your Branches was a much larger release. So the overall production costs could be spread out over more records. Thus, a lower end cost to customers. We could have sent a 16/44 CDr to the vinyl plant and had them cut the LP from that like so many other records. And we could have skipped the extra test pressings, and we could have gone with the cheap glossy album jackets to make the LP a few bucks cheaper. But doing a high quality release seemed like the right thing to do. Hope this explains our reasoning behind the price. Great story. I'm still not paying $20 plus shipping for a single LP of live versions of songs I already own in their original forms. Great story? Actually I kind of thought it was a nice explaination of why the price is higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Good price or not... Most of these are now my favorite versions of these songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmoney Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Got this in the mail today: #531/1000. No insert - which is always a little depressing when you pay $20 for a single LP. Excited to spin this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 got this today too. is anyone else's really "hissy"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactusbot Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Oh hey guys, look who's complaining again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtm Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Really enjoying this record. And for once I got a low # (8/500, guess it was before the realized they were pressing 1000). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
googlemyass Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 This is from Dave's manager:The Live at Electrical Audio LP is a limited run of only 500 LPs. So we had to price it higher to recoup the production costs for the separate vinyl mastering (from hi-res 24/96 audio), creating lacquers, several test pressings, printing album jackets on higher quality matte finish cardboard, etc. We are seeing this as a fan-only kind of release. It's not a big release with a huge marketing and press campaign to promote it. It's a balancing act... trying to print enough to get the per unit costs down, but not too many or else we'll have a lot of left overs and lose money. Curse Your Branches was a much larger release. So the overall production costs could be spread out over more records. Thus, a lower end cost to customers. We could have sent a 16/44 CDr to the vinyl plant and had them cut the LP from that like so many other records. And we could have skipped the extra test pressings, and we could have gone with the cheap glossy album jackets to make the LP a few bucks cheaper. But doing a high quality release seemed like the right thing to do. Hope this explains our reasoning behind the price. Great story. I'm still not paying $20 plus shipping for a single LP of live versions of songs I already own in their original forms. then dont pay it and stop fucking whining. this release is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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