dingus Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 The fact that this "Enjoy the Ride" talks about his "products" pretty much tells you everything you need to know about his "label". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themean Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I mean, Jailhouse has good points, but dude is putting out 311 and "Dream Theatre." I don't think he really has any clue what being independent is about and doesn't give a fuck. ETR just wants to be "industry." Those type of labels are the reason why the music business sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enjoytheride Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 I mean, Jailhouse has good points, but dude is putting out 311 and "Dream Theatre." I don't think he really has any clue what being independent is about and doesn't give a fuck. ETR just wants to be "industry." Those type of labels are the reason why the music business sucks. Im still going to be putting out smaller, cult following bands but for the larger retail releases and record store day affiliate stuff I am partnering with brookvale records which will only be a few a year. Regardless of people thinking that this takes no work, it took a year to get everything together. Theres a ton of approvals and bullshit involved and no one is waiting for your call or email which took a ton of persistence and time. No one seemed to complain about the fall of troy doppelganger repress, sure beats paying $100-$200 on ebay a few times a year, not to mention the sound was better on our version. Same thing with the early november box set, they sold out in 5 minutes and i got two dozen emails asking to make more. Manipulator will be something real special assuming the plant doesnt fuck it up. Its not like im putting out shit quality releases and making pre order 6 months in advance. Also How is what im doing any different than http://musiconvinyl.com/ which no one on here ever complains about their releases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexH. Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Also How is what im doing any different than http://musiconvinyl.com/ which no one on here ever complains about their releases. Well, Music on Vinyl does high-quality audiophile pressings, from analog masters, of stone-cold classic albums (Leonard Cohen, Miles Davis, Johnny Cash, Dylan, Hendrix, Slayer, The Clash, etc.) and not to further antagonize you for the quality of the music you release, but 10-year-old Drive Thru releases are hardly the same thing. People buying 180 gram pressings of Bitches Brew are not of the same mindset as people buying splatter 10" pressings of The Early November EPs. One is thinking "this music is timeless, I want to own the highest quality commercially available version available to preserve for future generations", one is thinking "Cool, I remember high school!" There is nothing wrong with that. I buy records I wouldn't like if I hadn't first heard them when I was 16. But there is a huge difference between you and Music On Vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 jailhouse needs his teeth kicked in so he shuts the fuck up. one word: cry baby!! what a fuck.You sound like the smartest kid with down syndrome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lipmyreeds Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Well at least you all finally cut to the chase...just wish you'd do it in another thread. Whether anyone likes it or not, this guy is putting something out that people have wanted for a long, long time and are rather excited about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Actually a lot of people bitch about MOV but for different reasons Price is always brought up every time they do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I mean, Jailhouse has good points, but dude is putting out 311 and "Dream Theatre." I don't think he really has any clue what being independent is about and doesn't give a fuck. ETR just wants to be "industry." Those type of labels are the reason why the music business sucks. Im still going to be putting out smaller, cult following bands but for the larger retail releases and record store day affiliate stuff I am partnering with brookvale records which will only be a few a year. Regardless of people thinking that this takes no work, it took a year to get everything together. Theres a ton of approvals and bullshit involved and no one is waiting for your call or email which took a ton of persistence and time. No one seemed to complain about the fall of troy doppelganger repress, sure beats paying $100-$200 on ebay a few times a year, not to mention the sound was better on our version. Same thing with the early november box set, they sold out in 5 minutes and i got two dozen emails asking to make more. Manipulator will be something real special assuming the plant doesnt fuck it up. Its not like im putting out shit quality releases and making pre order 6 months in advance. Also How is what im doing any different than http://musiconvinyl.com/ which no one on here ever complains about their releases. If you actually wanted people to hear these records on vinyl, the best music format because of its rich sound, try pressing more than 500 and just turning them into collectors items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry47591 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 While i am not buying this or 311 i don't see the harm in him releasing it. I am sure they will both sell out fast as Fans of these bands will kill for this release. I have never purchased anything from etr but thats just because i am late to the vinyl game. I would have loved to get the drive thru stuff he has released in the past because i love those bands. I really don't care who releases what as long as its released. I am new to this board but i am not really sure why you guys have to hate on everything.... I guess i do we all like conflict. I will be getting the i am the avalanche album from him for sure though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 While i am not buying this or 311 i don't see the harm in him releasing it. I am sure they will both sell out fast as Fans of these bands will kill for this release. I have never purchased anything from etr but thats just because i am late to the vinyl game. I would have loved to get the drive thru stuff he has released in the past because i love those bands. I really don't care who releases what as long as its released. I am new to this board but i am not really sure why you guys have to hate on everything.... I guess i do we all like conflict. I will be getting the i am the avalanche album from him for sure though. If you want some of the Drive Thru releases would you have preferred that he made more copies so more people could enjoy them instead of making as many as he knew he could sell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry47591 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Yeah i do but he may not be able too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enjoytheride Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 While i am not buying this or 311 i don't see the harm in him releasing it. I am sure they will both sell out fast as Fans of these bands will kill for this release. I have never purchased anything from etr but thats just because i am late to the vinyl game. I would have loved to get the drive thru stuff he has released in the past because i love those bands. I really don't care who releases what as long as its released. I am new to this board but i am not really sure why you guys have to hate on everything.... I guess i do we all like conflict. I will be getting the i am the avalanche album from him for sure though. If you want some of the Drive Thru releases would you have preferred that he made more copies so more people could enjoy them instead of making as many as he knew he could sell? Believe me, id love to make more copies of anything from drive thru. I know for a fact hot topic would take their own variant of each release I already put out but richard will not license out any more as he says he plans to do it himself in the future but ill believe it when I see it personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyljunkie Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 . No one seemed to complain about the fall of troy doppelganger repress, sure beats paying $100-$200 on ebay a few times a year, not to mention the sound was better on our version. Same thing with the early november box set, they sold out in 5 minutes and i got two dozen emails asking to make more.. i dont think the issue is COMPLETELY about you putting out arguably/debatable "good" music on vinyl and giving fans/collectors the chance to own it on vinyl. Im sure there are lots of people who love the stuff you put out. Its more about the fact that you state that you are in it to show the world there is more than just whats in the mainstream, and you post on a DIY board (or at least, what used to be focused on diy board....now it seems more focused on major label reissues), and talk yourself up as some underground dude thats really helping out the bands, etc. and its total bullshit. You are making money reissuing someone elses work. bottom line. No one is arguing if there is a market for it. obviously there is a huge market for it. so just admit that you arent a DIY guy. You arent looking to help underground bands, and that you are no part of any underground/diy scene. you arent doing the music "scene" any good. then continue to do what you are doing. obviously your stuff is selling out, and you are doing what you set out to accomplish, no need to defend that if you are honest about your intentions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 I love how this tard tries to be so "industry," yet still doesn't realize that records are released on Tuesdays, not Fridays.311 and Dream Theater... looking forward to Candlebox, maybe Green Jelly. Talk to "management." I'd rather see a Candlebox record pressed than another abysmal Manson record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yocaseycasey Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 I have never seen Ross come across as the Messiah of record pressing or the Santa Clause of re-issues. He's just pressing records and doing something that he loves. It's really no different than AlexH, jailhouse, and magicbullet sitting around at their parent's house masturbating to internet porn... they're doing something that they love. But, I mean, if they get pleasure out of spending an hour writing a novel about how ETR sucks and is destructive to the "indy" music scene, or whatever their gripes are about, that's cool. They probably work at Long John Silvers or deliver pizzas... Well, I know they don't have a college degree in English. Learn the difference between "your" and "you're" when chewing out young businessmen like Ross. You'll appear to be educated, and someone might take your opinions seriously. Ups to you Ross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yocaseycasey Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 ^+1 for English degree jokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 I have never seen Ross come across as the Messiah of record pressing or the Santa Clause of re-issues. He's just pressing records and doing something that he loves.It's really no different than AlexH, jailhouse, and magicbullet sitting around at their parent's house masturbating to internet porn... they're doing something that they love. But, I mean, if they get pleasure out of spending an hour writing a novel about how ETR sucks and is destructive to the "indy" music scene, or whatever their gripes are about, that's cool. They probably work at Long John Silvers or deliver pizzas... Well, I know they don't have a college degree in English. Learn the difference between "your" and "you're" when chewing out young businessmen like Ross. You'll appear to be educated, and someone might take your opinions seriously. Ups to you Ross. it's amusing that you chastise people for writing a 'novel' criticizing ETR, yet you just wrote a novella to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 I have never seen Ross come across as the Messiah of record pressing or the Santa Clause of re-issues. He's just pressing records and doing something that he loves.It's really no different than AlexH, jailhouse, and magicbullet sitting around at their parent's house masturbating to internet porn... they're doing something that they love. But, I mean, if they get pleasure out of spending an hour writing a novel about how ETR sucks and is destructive to the "indy" music scene, or whatever their gripes are about, that's cool. They probably work at Long John Silvers or deliver pizzas... Well, I know they don't have a college degree in English. Learn the difference between "your" and "you're" when chewing out young businessmen like Ross. You'll appear to be educated, and someone might take your opinions seriously. Ups to you Ross. You realize the people are criticizing run their own real record labels? As for an English degree... That gets you about this far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 i'm pretty sure that i will always win the useless degree contest. i have a degree in fine art (studio) with a concentration in painting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yocaseycasey Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 liberal arts is the new fine arts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 that's great that she's at least someone in her field of choice! i currently work for the state (mostly for the benefits) and am working on building a photography business. art is what i'm good at/passionate about, so i don't really have any regrets. i knew what i was getting myself into, as should everyone getting degrees in that or similar fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robx Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 .Learn the difference between "your" and "you're" when chewing out young businessmen like Ross. You'll appear to be educated, and someone might take your opinions seriously. Ups to you Ross. Businessmen. This is exactly a lot of people's issue with him. He's a businessman first, and a member of the community second. He has very openly stated that he stopped releasing new stuff because he lost money on ONE record. Every label loses money on a record or two. But most either close shop, or keep finding new stuff. He made some money on a few reissues, and instead of going back to helping bands, he's helping major labels. The truth is, everyone has to run a label like a business, but their is a difference between running like a punk/DIY label, and running it like he does. For all of the absurd shit vc did, he at least always put the artists first (after beer tours of course). It basically just comes down to the fact that he advertises himself as a DIY label, and then isnt actually helping anyone in the DIY community (other than record collectors with too much money). How many of his releases get to independent record stores (which is immensely helpful to music communities, especially in booking tours)? How many great unknown bands is he pushing into the picture? How many bands is he taking chances on that haven't had anyone take a chance on them yet? Say what you will about magic bullet, robotic, etc, but every one of those labels has taken too many chances on bands that no one knew. They might reissue a record or two, but if that keeps them afloat so they can keep pressing new stuff, then more power too them. Also, if this dissolves into grammar arguments, go start a separate thread. Bringing up grammar on a message board is admitting you're wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robx Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Also, probably wrong about vc putting bands first, but at least he knew the bands he was working with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexH. Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 I have never seen Ross come across as the Messiah of record pressing or the Santa Clause of re-issues. He's just pressing records and doing something that he loves.It's really no different than AlexH, jailhouse, and magicbullet sitting around at their parent's house masturbating to internet porn... they're doing something that they love. But, I mean, if they get pleasure out of spending an hour writing a novel about how ETR sucks and is destructive to the "indy" music scene, or whatever their gripes are about, that's cool. They probably work at Long John Silvers or deliver pizzas... Well, I know they don't have a college degree in English. Learn the difference between "your" and "you're" when chewing out young businessmen like Ross. You'll appear to be educated, and someone might take your opinions seriously. Ups to you Ross. This post is longer than any of my posts in this thread, which are grammatically correct and take probably 6-7 minutes to write. I am indeed a student with an unglamorous part time job who masturbates regularly. But I do have my own place, so ha! As for the others, most of them run successful labels and distros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonskanks Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 now that Long John Silvers has been brought up, I could really go for a Chicken Strip Basket and some Hushpuppies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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