derek123 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I got a new turntable (Pro-Ject Debut Carbon). It's a huge step up from my previous player, but it's more prone to skipping. Walking with a heavy foot across the room will cause a pretty bad skip. The record player is sitting on top of my Expedit shelf and I know that's probably not recommended, but I don't really have anywhere else for it to go. Anyone have any suggestions? If I should move it somewhere else, where is a good place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circuit bored records Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 What is your tracking force set to and do you have the anti-skate weight attached to the tonearm? Its unlikely it should be doing that on an expedit if those are set properly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek123 Posted December 27, 2014 Author Share Posted December 27, 2014 Yeah the weight is on the middle notch and the tracking force is set at 17.5, which is where it should be according to the Ortofon 2m red specs. Should I have put a bit more weight on the tone arm when I balanced it? I feel like it was in a pretty neutral position, but this is the first time I've set one up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek123 Posted December 27, 2014 Author Share Posted December 27, 2014 Well, I readjusted the tracking force to between 18 and 19. The Ortofon website actually recommended 18, but the range is 16-20. Walking no longer makes it skip, but running does, or stomping fairly hard on the floor does as well. I can live with it, but should it not skip even when running around, or is that normal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinch Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Well it's tough to say how "normal" it is as it probably has more to do with the floor/cabinet that it does with the tonearm setup. If you don't have very sturdy floor you need to either find a solution to dampen the vibrations as much as possible or wall-mount the table. The second option is obviously the better one, but also more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethrock Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I feel like at this point the easiest solution would be not stomping and running around near your turntable. I'm guessing most people's turntable's would skip if people were doing either of those things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek123 Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 Haha, yeah it's kind of ridiculous. I just wanted to see how far i could go before it skipped. I actually put a small paper weight on the corner of the turntable and that seemed to work even when jumping around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 You need isolation. Google turntable isolation for some tips. And the Expedit is hollow wood. When I had mine in an expedit shelf, I put it on a heavy slab of granite to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek123 Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 You need isolation. Google turntable isolation for some tips. And the Expedit is hollow wood. When I had mine in an expedit shelf, I put it on a heavy slab of granite to help. Thanks for the suggestion! I did google turntable isolation and got some pretty good ideas, some way more in depth than I was willing to go. I went out and got a very heavy slab of marble for the turntable to sit on, as this seems to work for a lot of people. It works somewhat, but it still skips from things that I feel like shouldn't make it skip (general heavy walking close to the turntable). So, I heard a lot about putting an inner tube underneath whatever platform your using for isolation. I bought a 12.5" inner tube and filled it just enough to hold the slab and my turntable, as suggested. Still skipping. I feel at this point that I might just be nit picking, but with a turntable like this, I feel I should be able to stomp up and down wherever the hell I want without it skipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Its not the table, its what the table is sitting on. These tables are meant to be on a solid surface. Besides the Expedit... how are your floors? Also- you might have missed one of the best solutions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tardcore Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 with a turntable like this, I feel I should be able to stomp up and down wherever the hell I want without it skipping. It's kind of the opposite really. the type of suspension/foundation required to completely isolate the platter/arm from an unfriendly environment out of the box costs $$,$$$. I can walk around the room but I started running around stomping on my wooden floors, I would expect my turntable to skip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tardcore Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Its not the table, its what the table is sitting on. These tables are meant to be on a solid surface. Besides the Expedit... how are your floors? Also- you might have missed one of the best solutions... What if he wants to pound on the walls? hmmm smart guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek123 Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Its not the table, its what the table is sitting on. These tables are meant to be on a solid surface. Besides the Expedit... how are your floors? Also- you might have missed one of the best solutions... You're totally right, it is the floors. I don't what made me think the TT had anything to do with it. The floors are pretty shaky and are wood. Other things on shelves tend to shake around and wobble when walking around normally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek123 Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 EDIT: The problem is actually still there. Literally just walking across the room can make a record skip. I have no idea what to do. Marble with inner tube didn't work really at all. Maybe a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethrock Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Its not the table, its what the table is sitting on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 You're totally right, it is the floors. I don't what made me think the TT had anything to do with it. The floors are pretty shaky and are wood. Other things on shelves tend to shake around and wobble when walking around normally. EDIT: The problem is actually still there. Literally just walking across the room can make a record skip. I have no idea what to do. Marble with inner tube didn't work really at all. Maybe a little. Did you already forget your previous post? Floors. Get a shelf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek123 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 I understand its the floors, but it seems there should be something that could be done and I don't want to mount my turntable to the wall. I edited the previous post because for some reason it seemed like the problem got worse. My previous record player had no issues with skipping. Was that probably because the tonearm was way too heavy? Anyway, I do appreciate the feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabwalker Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Have you tried hockey pucks? I bought a pack of 4 hockey pucks from Amazon for cheap. Put that under the marble slave and then the table on top. I have wood floors as well so I needed plenty of isolation. You may have already posted this but is your expedite anchored to the wall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek123 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 It's not anchored. I actually have some pucks, so I'll try it out, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabwalker Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I would recommend anchoring the shelf to the wall. My expedite was shaky at best until I anchored it. It's now really, really solid. Anchoring to the wall is super easy too. Try that and the pucks. I would almost guarantee that will fix it. edit: typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Tennis balls cut in half and placed under the turntable work as well, use 3 of whatever you use for isolation then its self levelling to a degree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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