akross Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 I have had 2 instances where I have gotten a record with some form of smoke coloration and they have had some kind of gritty crap on them and in the inner sleeves. Has anyone else had this happen? The records this has happened to me on are Isis - Panopticon (cokebottle with silver smoke) and 2 of the new Envy records (don't recall titles/colors offhand). I plan on buying a carbon fiber brush and new inner sleeves for these before I play them, but I was curious if this is a common thing for smoke color variations (maybe the reason the Alk3 VC color changed?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hickey Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Yes, it's very common. I don't know what causes it, but usually with colors in colors or smoke you'll get that grit. I know the Tan/Green of the Ben Weasel record was like that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarondanger Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 This is the reason for the color change. When the pressing plant makes this color its a powder compound instead of what they normally use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akross Posted February 7, 2008 Author Share Posted February 7, 2008 Interesting. Thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesbooty Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 i've had plenty of records like this, with shit in the sleeve and in the grooves. I recall my last one like this was Pelican - City of Echoes clear w/ black splatter. If your super sensitive about brushing them off with your hand out of the grooves (i try to keep my collection in good condition for many years to come), you can take canned air, hold the can at a fair length away from the record, so the blast isn't too strong, but will be able to remove the "particles." You can also attempt to spray out the sleeve like this as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjustinxschwierx Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 yeah my shot baker LP is like that as well...the plant says it won't affect play.......i hope. I thought I was alone in this until i heard about it happening to all the smoky colored records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfedaykinx Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 i dunno, i would never use that compressed "air" on my records. id be freaked out all them chemicals would get in the grooves and fuck up the vinyl. i think brushing before plays will eventually get all the dust out. a stylus brush after plays wouldnt hurt either. and like justin said, its not supposed to affect play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 and like justin said, its not supposed to affect play. Of course a pressing plant is going to say that it won't affect play but it does. Think about it, how does a record make sound? The stylus touches the grooves and extracts the music. Well, if something is blocking the grooves or hindering the stylus' contact with the grooves in any way it will not play perfectly. This is true whether you're talking about this grit, dirt particles, dust, lint, skil oils, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfedaykinx Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 just repeating what ive been told. guy at TRL also said it wont affect play and will eventually work itself out of the grooves. a carbon fiber brush will work fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbsauce Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 "Smoke" is something new I've seen in vinyl recently...and it's really sweet. Any idea which plants offer that option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nickman Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 all the 'smoke' vinyl i have plays perfectly fine on my table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 I don´t think it´s a problem connected with "smoke" vinyl in particular. I noticed the same thing with opaque color pressings or those new splatter ones as well. I just had the same effect when I played my colored repress of Minor Threat´s OOS earlier tonight. Strangely I only had this problem with vinyl made in CZ by GZ media, f.e. stuff done by Pirates Press or Recordpressing.com, but never with vinyl from US pressing plants. All my smokey US wax plays perfectly without any problems or any traces of gritty crap. And I still think the quality of vinyl done by GZ media is inferiour in general to US or german pressing plants. Ever noticed for example how bad the edges of their records are cut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfedaykinx Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Ever noticed for example how bad the edges of their records are cut? i have, and it bothers me greatly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniethebear Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 If anything, your needle will clear out the "dust" particles the more you play it. You just need to clean your needle after it builds up a little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skumbucket Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 why don't they just clean them before they ship? or at the plant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjustinxschwierx Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 ^^^^ -$$$$$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruins4ever Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Putting them in a microwave works. It acts like a magnet and gets all the dust right outta there. 2 minutes on power level 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skumbucket Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 no thanks, dude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Dirt you can't feel on records negatively effects the play of the record, so I can only imagine that the gritty sandy stuff you CAN feel would similarly do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesbooty Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 ugh. i just got the envy represses, on both compiled fragments and dead sinking story there was gritty sand stuff. where can i get a brush to get this stuff off and what kind of brush was it again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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