ihprstl Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Has anyone used a clip from a TV show or movie between songs on a record? Where did you get permission to use it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000000 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 used a few star wars clips on my band's first album. needless to say we will never get big, and i don't think georgie is gonna find out any time soon. but for a real answer, you'll probably have to contact the studio that produced it, meaning a lotttttttt of paperwork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vinyldoa Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 getting permission = not punk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 getting permission = not punk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 just do it who gives a fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexH. Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 It will take months of boring legal stuff and you will end up having to pay too much in licensing fees for a 3 second sample that will be on 500 7"s. Just do it, man. Find a pressing plant that's lax about that kind of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjaicomo Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 It's probably covered by fair use doctrine, and you won't need permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcamps Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 isn't less than 30 seconds of anything legal to sample? i had a teacher in high school that was strict about that in presentations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user456 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Unless its Lucasfilm or you plan on making a hit single than I doubt anyone will waste time or money on a lawsuit. As for fair use it's probably not. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes; the nature of the copyrighted work; the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almightyseancore Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 YO SUCKA, YOU GOTTA BIG MOUTH. BADAPOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user456 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 isn't less than 30 seconds of anything legal to sample? i had a teacher in high school that was strict about that in presentations. I think that only applies to classroom/instructors use only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetJerryWine Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 isn't less than 30 seconds of anything legal to sample? i had a teacher in high school that was strict about that in presentations. I think that only applies to classroom/instructors use only. I dunno, I've heard that about music, too. Don't know if it's true, but whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xchriszx Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 It will take months of boring legal stuff and you will end up having to pay too much in licensing fees for a 3 second sample that will be on 500 7"s. Just do it, man. Find a pressing plant that's lax about that kind of thing. Any idea what plants are on the "lax" side of things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexH. Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I think that only applies to classroom/instructors use only. I dunno, I've heard that about music, too. Don't know if it's true, but whatever. This is a myth. Tons of rappers got in trouble for this in the early 90s. Surely you guys have heard of Vanilla Ice vs. Queen, or Biz Markie vs. whoever it was that he sampled. Fair use is super vague, on purpose, and takes more into account than just the length of the sample: >Recognizability of the sample >Whether the work is for commercial use, and >The effect that using the sample will have on the future marketability of the sample (AKA: will your appropriation of this work discourage others from trying to license it for their own use) This is why, even if copyright holders find out about it, there's usually no legal ramifications when some semi-obscure band self-releases an album with a random movie soundclip between tracks, whereas an artist who samples a recognizable guitar riff as part of the central hook of their big single will always have to get their ducks in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexH. Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 It will take months of boring legal stuff and you will end up having to pay too much in licensing fees for a 3 second sample that will be on 500 7"s. Just do it, man. Find a pressing plant that's lax about that kind of thing. Any idea what plants are on the "lax" side of things? I'm guessing anyone who does know this probably won't give an answer on a public forum. Your best bet is to contact labels who have released records with samples on them and ask them where they get their stuff done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xchriszx Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Any idea what plants are on the "lax" side of things? I'm guessing anyone who does know this probably won't give an answer on a public forum. Your best bet is to contact labels who have released records with samples on them and ask them where they get their stuff done. Makes sense. Well if anyone is willing to share send me a PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkie Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 don't sample clips in your songs, its only cool to 13 year olds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjustinxschwierx Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 It will take months of boring legal stuff and you will end up having to pay too much in licensing fees for a 3 second sample that will be on 500 7"s. Just do it, man. Find a pressing plant that's lax about that kind of thing. Any idea what plants are on the "lax" side of things? If you PM me I will tell you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihprstl Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Mmmm.... Decisions, decisions.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 It's probably covered by fair use doctrine, and you won't need permission. This Gent is on the right track. With Fair Use it often depends on context or accessibility. Odds are you can legally use the clip, provided you aren't using a gratuitous amount, anyway. It is always better to get a legal opinion in advance but like referenced above it is probably out of the budget of a band seeking to press a few hundred records. If you get hit with a lawsuit you can find grounds for defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihprstl Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 I'll probably just have this cut out. It's probably not worth the headache. I did email Harry Fox to see if they can recommend a place that handles TV/Movie samples. Curious as to what their response is going to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfgayhandjob Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Ask Graf Orlock! Their releases are littered with samples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theinkd Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 you can just sample it, you don't need permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almightyseancore Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 you can just sample it, you don't need permission. or be friends with the director. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevorm Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I'll probably just have this cut out. It's probably not worth the headache. I did email Harry Fox to see if they can recommend a place that handles TV/Movie samples. Curious as to what their response is going to be. Curious as to what the sample is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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