recordhound1002 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Idk Seth. All the records I have ever bought from you guys has played great never had a problem. These records look amazing but I cant explain the skips. Especially the Clear/Orange copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 I just ordered a black first press and a red with black 2nd press. I'm hoping I luck out and get copies not afflicted with whatever is wrong with all these other ones considering some have had no complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Well my record does sound fantastic when it's not skipping. Unfortunately that's not very often. :/ I have a clear/orange copy and an Audio Technica AT-LP120. First problem I've ever had with a Topshelf release and I have quite a few! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 I've got that same table, daniel. I also have a Numark TT200. I find that most of the time my Numark will not skip where my AT-LP120 does. Also, I find that most of my skipping issues can be solved by upping the tracking force slightly until its gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recordhound1002 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 I've got that same table, daniel. I also have a Numark TT200. I find that most of the time my Numark will not skip where my AT-LP120 does. Also, I find that most of my skipping issues can be solved by upping the tracking force slightly until its gone. Hoping my second presses will play perfectly. My black copy wasnt that bad just 1 or 2 skips at the begginning of side B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagbard Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 just have seen, that the problem seems to be known: maroon absolutely fine (twice played) black absolutely fine (once played) clear/orange (played three times) skips very often on track 1 and in-between track 2 and 4 (where the silent part started to getting loud) turntable: technics mk2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smailtronic Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 No skipping problem with my maroon copy. Plays fine on my Technics SL-D1, but does skate a bit on my little portable combo player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Seems like maroon is the one that skips the least/not at all. That was the one I was gonna order too but I missed out. Can anyone post a picture of the maroon? I'm not sure the Topshelf photo actually includes it. It looks like its the second press red with black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recordhound1002 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 I know what your talking about, Its deff Maroon, looks more like a redish with black in it but its the maroon copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Ok. I still would like to see a higher resolution picture of it if anyone has got one. Thank you for confirming. =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serum7 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 My clear/orange copy plays great, no skips. The TSR hoodie is also quite sexy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsr00seth Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Seems like maroon is the one that skips the least/not at all. That was the one I was gonna order too but I missed out.Can anyone post a picture of the maroon? I'm not sure the Topshelf photo actually includes it. It looks like its the second press red with black. That photo posted does not include maroon. The second pressing of the record is clear red with black and clear with black. They both look awesome. The maroon on the first pressing is a solid and has a nice rich feel to it. Thanks to everyone who has mentioned where they are having audio issues and the brand turntable they are using. We're still trying to sort this out as it's not a contained issue where every copy skips in the same place. These records don't have sawdust or sand everywhere and I swear we didn't take select lps and mess with them. One more thing to ask, anyone who is having issues with their B side, could you see if there are any sort of scratches on it? The pressing plant mentioned was that it could be a tracking issue on the turntables – actual skips will cause you to see the stylus jump, and will happen in the same spot on every record. They also said that "the rapid fire drums could cause tracking issues on turntables that are either not properly adjusted with their counterweights, or lack the ability to adjust. Vinyl's dynamic range is much more constricted than digital, so whenever there is a recording that has fast changes, it is more of a challenge for the stylus to properly track and play back all of the information in the groove-- especially on the inner part of the record." Basically meaning that Native has indeed rocked your world. We're still working on figuring out what could be causing the issues and it becomes way more difficult when people are also posting that their records play great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Hahaha, Nave is too rad of a drummer for the vinyl format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuckphilly Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 my black is all good, besides a lil crazy action at the beginning of the b side. sorry to hear so many peoples are fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagbard Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 The pressing plant mentioned was that it could be a tracking issue on the turntables – actual skips will cause you to see the stylus jump, and will happen in the same spot on every record. They also said that "the rapid fire drums could cause tracking issues on turntables that are either not properly adjusted with their counterweights, or lack the ability to adjust. Vinyl's dynamic range is much more constricted than digital, so whenever there is a recording that has fast changes, it is more of a challenge for the stylus to properly track and play back all of the information in the groove-- especially on the inner part of the record." Basically meaning that Native has indeed rocked your world. so... 1. sorry for posting this now seth and 2. many thanks for your post, it helped: - i added a little more weight on the needle (2.5 gr.) and adjusted the anti-skate - played the clear/orange three times again -> NO skipping at all! - suggest to everybody who has had issues, check your needle weight and correct if lighter than 2.5 gr. - i am totally fine with the record now and will play it without fearing any skip just my 5cents. thanks for your engagement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I'm glad the weight method worked for you, hagbard. It makes me hopeful that I'll be able to avert the skipping issue. Seems like maroon is the one that skips the least/not at all. That was the one I was gonna order too but I missed out.Can anyone post a picture of the maroon? I'm not sure the Topshelf photo actually includes it. It looks like its the second press red with black. That photo posted does not include maroon. The second pressing of the record is clear red with black and clear with black. They both look awesome. The maroon on the first pressing is a solid and has a nice rich feel to it. Damn it! I want maroon even more now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zplace Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 They also said that "the rapid fire drums could cause tracking issues on turntables that are either not properly adjusted with their counterweights, or lack the ability to adjust. I am going to look into the adjustment of the counterweights on my turntable tonight when I get home from work. I am also going to stop by my local record shop and try spinning Side B on a different table. I will update this post tonight with whether this makes it work for me or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deafmx Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 yeah, upping the tracking fixed the skipping but it also means there's more weight grinding your needle into your vinyl. that's not a great fix. I have a maroon, I hear plenty of surface noise. not sure what someone is listening through. all the quiet parts have surface noise and sometimes a constant pop on every rotation. before upping the weight there were spots all over side A that skipped and the last song even got caught in a loop halfway through. now onto side B to see what all the real fuss is about. Technics SL-1210 M5G plays fine with double the normal weight I usually use. I think one small skip on side B but nothing major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 It sucks to have to double the weight. I've only had to go that far for a few albums. Not very often. Usually another 1/2 gram or so does it for me. I don't really worry that much about the grinding with a little extra weight. A good rule of them to know if you really have too much weight is to play the record and cut off your input to the receiver and only listen to the needle acoustically. If it sounds way over-blown and distorted that way, probably back that needle off a bit at least until you have no more obvious distortion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Out of curiosity, did anyone get shipping confirmation for this order in general? Just want to know if I can expect it from TSR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagbard Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 just added 0.5 grams (from 2 to 2.5), that should work and don't make any surface noise... and yes got a shipping confirmation as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratmaster2 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 My maroon copy skips about 5356 times during the last track. Urgh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagbard Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 stratmaster... what copy of somewhere are you looking for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratmaster2 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Aw shit I should really update that list, I got a copy of that album yesterday.. What kinda copy do you have anyways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I messed around with the anti-skating knob as well as the counterweight and I'm still having a ton of problems. It's a huge bummer. I'm gonna wait to see what the word is on the second press and buy another copy if they're better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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