crime Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 The WWE should get rid of the US and IC titles. The US title means absolutely nothing and the IC title has become nothing more than a piece of jewlery for Cody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 A lot of people suggest that if there were only one Heavyweight Title/WWE Title, the US and IC Titles would mean more. Makes sense; one of the two could hold the position the Heavyweight Title holds now. But, no, i don't think either will be at WM. Wonder if Swagger will even do anything there. Maybe MITB. Cody might be in that match, as well. That's pretty much all there is for the midcarders to do at 'Mania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Word on the street is the Mania MITB match will consist of all former WWE/Heavyweight Champs. Guys like Orton, Christian, Del Rio etc etc etc. From what I've read Cody will most likely be fighting Dustin at Mania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Oh, right. i forgot about that Cody/Goldust match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Finally got around to watching this weeks Raw. That was a horrible episode, except for the main event. That was a legit entertaining match (minus Truth getting hurt). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfreliable Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Finally got around to watching this weeks Raw. That was a horrible episode, except for the main event. That was a legit entertaining match (minus Truth getting hurt). Dont say that, it was the only part I missed and I wanted to believe it was just as bad as the rest of the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Smackdown was forgetable. Not a bad show, but not a good one. Seeing Khali in the ring makes me cringe. Where was Bro-Clay this week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 ps daniel bryan/christain feud right now would be amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Finally got around to watching this weeks Raw. That was a horrible episode, except for the main event. That was a legit entertaining match (minus Truth getting hurt). Dont say that, it was the only part I missed and I wanted to believe it was just as bad as the rest of the show. it was as bad as the rest of the show. i found it very sloppy, and jerichos rust was obvious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfreliable Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Dont say that, it was the only part I missed and I wanted to believe it was just as bad as the rest of the show. it was as bad as the rest of the show. i found it very sloppy, and jerichos rust was obvious The only clip I have seen of it is when Miz and Jericho went to do a double clothes line while running the ropes and the Miz took the bump waay early, like he is on the mat and Jericho is still running the ropes early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Dont say that, it was the only part I missed and I wanted to believe it was just as bad as the rest of the show. it was as bad as the rest of the show. i found it very sloppy, and jerichos rust was obvious Ignore the Miz and Jericho and it was a great match. Jericho has looked sloppy in all of his in ring apperances so far. Not so sure it's ring rust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfreliable Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Ignore the Miz and Jericho and it was a great match. Jericho has looked sloppy in all of his in ring apperances so far. Not so sure it's ring rust. The dude has been in THREE matches since his return. The first one he tagged in and walked off without doing a single move, the second was a battle royal that is chaotic as all hell and then this most recent one. If you can tell the difference between ring rust and "lost all skill in 9 months of being away but still training with Lance Storm" then you sir should work for WWE. We get it, you dont like anyone over the age of 23, but I think you jumped the gun a bit on this most recent one. At least let him get 5 real matches under his belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 He was in the rumble close enough to the end where it wasn't that chaotic. He was one of the final two and looked sloppy when he was in there with just Shaemous. He's only been out of the ring for 1 year and you have to remember he's been having house show matches as well (so he's been in the ring more than 3 times). In the 20+ years I've been watching pro wrestling I've seen guys who have been gone from the business longer than Jericho have been and have looked much sharper than he has in their first match back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfreliable Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 All of his house show matches were the same up until Monday night. He would tag in, rile up the crowd, and leave. Before that he didnt have official matches, he would just attack David Otunga. So yeah, that argument is lost too. Yeah, they looked sharper cause he has ring rust, thats what we are saying. You are saying he is a terrible wrestler and washed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Opinions are like assholes everyone has one. You think it's ring rust I think he's a crappy wrestler. Potato Potateo. The more important news is that Vince Russo is gone from TNA. TNA has been more entertaining than WWE for the last 4 months or so, and this is a huge step in the right direction to make their product even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 i was coming here to talk about how badly i want this whole kane/cena/eve/ryder thing to end. and then eve shoved her tongue down cenas throat so far that im pretty sure she tickled his prosty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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scottheisel Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Soooo glad this stupid Cena/Kane feud will be over next week. Did anyone else see the Swellers in the front row, btw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Yeah, this Kane/Cena thing is not good. i like Kane, but i just don't care about any of this storyline. i feel like nothing really happened on Raw last night. The Chamber preview matches were short and not really memorable, which i guess makes sense, since no one wants to get hurt before the PPV. The debate was alright; R-Truth really made the segment. Even though i don't want to see H/'Taker again, the segment last night was decent. i just wish that Taker would show up in person a few times. We already have the Dwayne "Via Satellite" Johnson. We don't need more Attitude Era wrestlers appearing only in videos. i am excited for the Chamber matches, as i am a mark for the gimmick, but i seriously doubt D. Bry is going to retain. Looks more and more like Orton is going to be the champ; he is the only other option, in my opinion, to win the SD match. On Raw's side, i expect Punk to retain. Hesitantly, i would say Jericho, but we all know what happened at the Rumble when everyone predicted him to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Soooo glad this stupid Cena/Kane feud will be over next week.Did anyone else see the Swellers in the front row, btw? lol. they were tweeting pictures of them at the event. i think punk hooked them up, because i'm going to guess they don't have the $300+ it costs for a ring side seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Yeah, this Kane/Cena thing is not good. i like Kane, but i just don't care about any of this storyline. i feel like nothing really happened on Raw last night. The Chamber preview matches were short and not really memorable, which i guess makes sense, since no one wants to get hurt before the PPV. The debate was alright; R-Truth really made the segment. Even though i don't want to see H/'Taker again, the segment last night was decent. i just wish that Taker would show up in person a few times. We already have the Dwayne "Via Satellite" Johnson. We don't need more Attitude Era wrestlers appearing only in videos. i am excited for the Chamber matches, as i am a mark for the gimmick, but i seriously doubt D. Bry is going to retain. Looks more and more like Orton is going to be the champ; he is the only other option, in my opinion, to win the SD match. On Raw's side, i expect Punk to retain. Hesitantly, i would say Jericho, but we all know what happened at the Rumble when everyone predicted him to win. Jericho will win the title at EC. That sets up Punk/Jericho at Mania, which is one of the main reasons the WWE brought back Jericho in the first place. If Punk retains then they don't really have the story to set up Punk/Jericho at Mania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 You're probably right, i'm just thinking that they may pull another swerve like they did at the Rumble. Jericho could lose and still have a legitimate claim to the title, perhaps if he eliminates two or three guys in the Chamber but gets pinned by Punk. i just think it would look bad if a guy who has been back for a month and a half and wrestled three matches wins the top belt in the company. Then again, you've got Khali in the SD chamber who has done the same thing. On the topic of Jericho, i am still puzzled by his return. What was the point of the month of silence if he was just going to turn back into heel Jericho? i feel like he should of stuck with one or the other. It would have been cool if he just didn't say anything and attacked Punk and the other Chamber participants for a few weeks, but kept smiling and wearing his light-up jacket like he did the first few times. And what were all the references in the videos? i mean, last night, he mentioned "reclaiming what is mine," but the mysterious "she" hasn't been revealed. i wonder if anything will ever come of it. i'm glad he is back, but the whole thing is just muddled, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfreliable Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I think D Bry wins the chamber. I really dont see them going with Orton vs Sheamus at WM. They typically dont like to do face vs face matches there unless they have enough time to really build it up. I think D Bry will find some sort of way to weasle his way out with the title. I go back and forth on the Raw match. Sometimes I think Punk, and others I think Jericho. I cant see Jericho losing here and then getting another shot at the belt before someone else. I also think both belts will be just two man events, they have fatal four way as a ppv happening soon after so I dont think they want to put one on at WM. As far as Raw goes... Was HHH/HBK really the best thing? I was dreading that segment and it turns out to be the highlight of the episode besides Truths antics with spiders? Cena/Eve was brutal. I cant even describe it. Anyone else notice that Miz does way too much postering to the camera during matches? He hits his clothesline at the turnbuckle and poses for the camera. Hits his knee ddt and poses for the camera. The dude needs to spend more time tying moves together. During the DX love fest, they made a comment about how they were from a different era, an era that always left everything they had in the ring. I miss that about wrestling. I dont care if they bring the attitude era back, just bring back the passion in the ring. So many times you feel like you are just watching them go through the motions on Raw and Smackdown as they are saving everything for the ppv. Then the ppv comes and they dont have any fire cause they arent used to having it all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I don't think they'll swerve from Jericho winning at EC. They had him winning the Rumble to set up Punk/Y2J at Mania. They swerved on that, and they still need to line up the match for Mania and Jericho winning the title is the perfect set up for that. As for Jericho not "earning" his title shot or them putting a title on a guy who just came back. The WWE has done this countless times before. The fact that he at one time in his career was a Superstar and one of the biggest names in the business will always be his ticket or dues to title shots. PPV buys are down, live event ticket sales are down, and now the WWE is trying to bring both those back up by bringing back one of their biggest superstars from the past 10 years. As much as I dislike Jericho I'm jsut glad they've chosen him to do this instead of trying to pull this off with someone like Nash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfreliable Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I love how they are trying to blame Miz for the poor Survivor Series buyrate. It has nothing to do with 13 ppvs in 12 months, the fact that they are overpriced, the terrible buildup of the undercards, stories that dont get resolved, and the fact that Cena man handled them both on his own building up to it, its all the Miz's fault. He should have... bought more? Done more sattalite promos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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