maintreqd Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I hear good deal of noise / static on this otherwise amazing sounding 2xLP. Especially noticeable in the final 15 seconds of "Today", but i hear static and noise throughout the 2 LPs. My buddy and I both have copies and from discussing with him I'm pretty certain we hear it in similar/the same places. i originally noticed it on my Audio Technics AT PL120 and i literally returned the thing after, figuring i just had a somewhat low quality TT. Now on a Rega RP1 through a Cambridge 640p phono stage into my Onkyo receiver i still hear it. I don't regret the upgrade one bit, and i'm happy to realize it's nothing with my setup... but it's kind of a bummer for such an amazing looking reissue to possibly be pressed kinda poorly... anyone else get this and feel the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zick Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Is this the 2011 reissue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maintreqd Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 Is this the 2011 reissue? yes, with the purple/orange foiled packaging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I hear good deal of noise / static on this otherwise amazing sounding 2xLP This confuses the hell out of me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almightyseancore Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 maybe your needle is tracking too heavily? try balancing it to about 2.5. i find that best for 180 gram pressings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maintreqd Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 maybe your needle is tracking too heavily?try balancing it to about 2.5. i find that best for 180 gram pressings. I don't think i can put any more weight on the cartridge than I already have with the RP1 unfortunately, although according to ortofon's documentation for the Ortofon OM5e in my TT, your suggestion is about 0.5 - 0.75 g too heavy? since i'm hearing the same static/noise in the same places on 2 different TTs (and 3, if you count my original attempt on the technics I returned) I'm figuring it must be the press and not my setup, though i do wish i could adjust VTF a bit more on the RP1. I hear good deal of noise / static on this otherwise amazing sounding 2xLPThis confuses the hell out of me I'm curious where you hear it. if and when you think of it and have the time you could even PM me. I'm imagining our findings will match, but i'm definitely curious. I guess more than anything I want to make sure it's not just my copy and i shouldn't bother trying to get it replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 i didn't notice it the first couple times i listened but i actually made plans to listen to this tonight. i will let you know if i hear anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thacriddler Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I have that record and I didn't notice it. I'm going to check again when I get home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajiv56 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 The reissue sounds amazing to me. Maybe they messed up on some of the presses accidentally....or maybe my hearing is messed up :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almightyseancore Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 maybe your needle is tracking too heavily?try balancing it to about 2.5. i find that best for 180 gram pressings. I don't think i can put any more weight on the cartridge than I already have with the RP1 unfortunately, although according to ortofon's documentation for the Ortofon OM5e in my TT, your suggestion is about 0.5 - 0.75 g too heavy? maybe weight settings can differ depending on your cartridge, but i almost always leave mine at 2.5 sometimes, on thinner records, i notice a staticy, almost "scraping" kind of sound that goes away when i lessen the weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidamnesiac Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 maybe your needle is tracking too heavily?try balancing it to about 2.5. i find that best for 180 gram pressings. I don't think i can put any more weight on the cartridge than I already have with the RP1 unfortunately, although according to ortofon's documentation for the Ortofon OM5e in my TT, your suggestion is about 0.5 - 0.75 g too heavy? since i'm hearing the same static/noise in the same places on 2 different TTs (and 3, if you count my original attempt on the technics I returned) I'm figuring it must be the press and not my setup, though i do wish i could adjust VTF a bit more on the RP1. I hear good deal of noise / static on this otherwise amazing sounding 2xLPThis confuses the hell out of me I'm curious where you hear it. if and when you think of it and have the time you could even PM me. I'm imagining our findings will match, but i'm definitely curious. I guess more than anything I want to make sure it's not just my copy and i shouldn't bother trying to get it replaced. You're not reading what people are telling you. almightyseancore is telling you to lessen your tracking weight, not add to it. youspinmeround is confused because you're saying that an LP with "a good deal of noise" sounds amazing, not that he's having the same problem as you.As for my copy of the reissued Siamese Dream, it sounds great. I tested Today, where you said you were having problems with noise and I don't hear anything but a guitar symphony. Are there any other particular spots that you're noticing this on? Like others have mentioned, if you and your friend have noise in the same areas and others like myself aren't having problems, it's likely only problem with a specific run of the records. A friend of mine had a similar issue with a copy of OK Computer that he had to return three or four times before finally getting a good press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I will have to check mine out. I remember them sounding amazing but then again, I wasn't paying a ton of attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnywreck Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I never bought this because I always thought the OP sounded great as it was. Any noticeable difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almightyseancore Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 i have an OP and the black repress that came out before this remaster happened. i agree they both sound great. i do have these remaster box sets on cd and those alone sound amazing, with very noticeable differences, but i still haven't been able to convince myself to get these represses. and i buy damn near everything SP puts out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maintreqd Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 I don't think i can put any more weight on the cartridge than I already have with the RP1 unfortunately, although according to ortofon's documentation for the Ortofon OM5e in my TT, your suggestion is about 0.5 - 0.75 g too heavy? since i'm hearing the same static/noise in the same places on 2 different TTs (and 3, if you count my original attempt on the technics I returned) I'm figuring it must be the press and not my setup, though i do wish i could adjust VTF a bit more on the RP1. I'm curious where you hear it. if and when you think of it and have the time you could even PM me. I'm imagining our findings will match, but i'm definitely curious. I guess more than anything I want to make sure it's not just my copy and i shouldn't bother trying to get it replaced. You're not reading what people are telling you. almightyseancore is telling you to lessen your tracking weight, not add to it. youspinmeround is confused because you're saying that an LP with "a good deal of noise" sounds amazing, not that he's having the same problem as you.As for my copy of the reissued Siamese Dream, it sounds great. I tested Today, where you said you were having problems with noise and I don't hear anything but a guitar symphony. Are there any other particular spots that you're noticing this on? Like others have mentioned, if you and your friend have noise in the same areas and others like myself aren't having problems, it's likely only problem with a specific run of the records. A friend of mine had a similar issue with a copy of OK Computer that he had to return three or four times before finally getting a good press. Ahhhh i'm at work and must have not read carefully enough, i apologize. I can try lessening the tracking weight and listening again to find out other spots. EDIT: in rereading almightyseancore he said to balance at 2.5... I don't have a VTF scale but my RP1 maxes out at around 2 from what i can tell (supposedly only 1.75g when the counterweight is rotated fully forward on the stub) to clear up MY confusing statement: there is static and noise present on my copy from time to time that drives me nuts. when it isn't doing that, though, the record sounds incredible. I never bought this because I always thought the OP sounded great as it was. Any noticeable difference? never heard the OP, would love to get a copy... but i do believe it was remastered and the new packaging is really slick IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 New release is better all around and i hear it's quickly going out of print. Apparently amazon has a "ships in 1-2 months" message on SD. I wouldn't wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comesleep Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Yeah, the repress sounds amazing on my table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almightyseancore Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 EDIT: in rereading almightyseancore he said to balance at 2.5... I don't have a VTF scale but my RP1 maxes out at around 2 from what i can tell (supposedly only 1.75g when the counterweight is rotated fully forward on the stub) oooo. mine goes up to 3.5. weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jtk Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Ortofon recommends 1.75g for that cartridge anyway. I wouldn't go above 2g. maybe there is dust on your record? Anyway, I'm interested to see the out come because Siamese Dream is on my to buy list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maintreqd Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 Ortofon recommends 1.75g for that cartridge anyway. I wouldn't go above 2g.maybe there is dust on your record? Anyway, I'm interested to see the out come because Siamese Dream is on my to buy list. while I doubt this is the issue, I AM looking into a relatively inexpensive but effective way to clean my records (old and new) before playing them. any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jtk Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I'm sure there are many variations on this, but here's what I do: Relatively clean record: just carbon fiber brush Somewhat dirty: Audio Technica AT6012 fluid/brush, then carbon fiber brush Fresh from the resale shop: clamp a pair of dent pullers on either side (to keep label dry), then dishwashing soap (Joy or whatever) and water in a bowl, brushed on with a paint brush. Rinse under the tap and dry with microfiber towel. These are the dent pullers I'm using. : http://www.harborfreight.com/4-1-2-half-inch-diameter-suction-cup-40993.html They're OK. I mostly use the first 2 methods because the 3rd is kind of involved and time consuming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookedonsonics Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Just got this over the weekend, listening to it now and it sounds great (asides from random speed changes, which is probably my player's fault)...my sole complaint, man, for $30 for a 2xLP, no liner notes for the vinyl!??! That's effing ridiculous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 it was $21.15 from amazon when it came out. worth every penny. and there's sleeves inside with all the lyrics, which is much more than the original came with. plus the quality of the vinyl and jacket is top notch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmoney Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I'm a pretty big fan of these reissues. And the price from Hot Topic when they had their "Hot Cash" or whatever was pretty amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcamps Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 it just sounds like shit cause its remastered and you know you'd rather hear the original Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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