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The term "punisher" really struck a nerve with you. Just to be clear, not every buyer is a punisher, nor is every buyer who leaves negative or neutral feedback a punisher. A punisher is a buyer who puts unrealistic expectations on a seller, doesn't communicate their grievances before filing a claim or airing details of a bad transaction, or makes unreasonable requests of the seller, i.e. demanding a tracking number moments after paying and opening a claim if the seller doesn't respond within a day; freaking out over a minor scratch on a $4 record; constantly messaging about the whereabouts of a record when the tracking number clearly states what's going on; etc.... I've rarely dealt with punishment from buyers. And the one time I got neutral feedback it was warranted because I didn't notice an issue upon inspection. That said, reading this thread and others here makes it evident that there are a number of punishers among us.
Like Derby said, if everyone adheres to the "don't be a dick" rule, all will be well.

The term "punisher" really struck a nerve with you. Just to be clear, not every buyer is a punisher, nor is every buyer who leaves negative or neutral feedback a punisher. A punisher is a buyer who puts unrealistic expectations on a seller, doesn't communicate their grievances before filing a claim or airing details of a bad transaction, or makes unreasonable requests of the seller, i.e. demanding a tracking number moments after paying and opening a claim if the seller doesn't respond within a day; freaking out over a minor scratch on a $4 record; constantly messaging about the whereabouts of a record when the tracking number clearly states what's going on; etc.... I've rarely dealt with punishment from buyers. And the one time I got neutral feedback it was warranted because I didn't notice an issue upon inspection. That said, reading this thread and others here makes it evident that there are a number of punishers among us.
Like Derby said, if everyone adheres to the "don't be a dick" rule, all will be well.

Until you get that special breed of punisher that thinks you control the post office and they get mad when the tracking number shows no movement for a few days. 

All of this is well and good, but one thing a lot of people are forgetting is that most of the people selling records on eBay or Discogs aren't running a business - they're just doing this to make a little extra money or as a hobby to fund buying new records. I think it's unrealistic to expect everyone who sells records to grade things 100 percent accurately based on Goldmine standards - which is difficult enough for professionals, let alone a dude looking to unload some records he doesn't want anymore. There should be a mutual level of understanding on behalf of the buyer and the seller and honest communication before someone leaves neutral or negative feedback or calls someone out on a message board, whether it be over the record's condition, shipping times, or any of the myriad things that can go wrong when making faceless transactions over the Internet and through the mail.

Until you get that special breed of punisher that thinks you control the post office and they get mad when the tracking number shows no movement for a few days. 

Until you get that special breed of punisher that thinks you control the post office and they get mad when the tracking number shows no movement for a few days. 

The way around the bull is to print the shipping label quickly then take a day or two to pack and drop off. I found long ago that doing this kept people from hounding you. 

Until you get that special breed of punisher that thinks you control the post office and they get mad when the tracking number shows no movement for a few days. 

Until you get that special breed of punisher that thinks you control the post office and they get mad when the tracking number shows no movement for a few days. 

This. And if you absolutely need it faster, send a nice note and pay for priority mail. I typically can only make it to a post office on a Saturday, but if asked I can probably swing it during the week.

Until you get that special breed of punisher that thinks you control the post office and they get mad when the tracking number shows no movement for a few days. 

All of this is well and good, but one thing a lot of people are forgetting is that most of the people selling records on eBay or Discogs aren't running a business - they're just doing this to make a little extra money or as a hobby to fund buying new records. I think it's unrealistic to expect everyone who sells records to grade things 100 percent accurately based on Goldmine standards - which is difficult enough for professionals, let alone a dude looking to unload some records he doesn't want anymore. There should be a mutual level of understanding on behalf of the buyer and the seller and honest communication before someone leaves neutral or negative feedback or calls someone out on a message board, whether it be over the record's condition, shipping times, or any of the myriad things that can go wrong when making faceless transactions over the Internet and through the mail.

This. And if you absolutely need it faster, send a nice note and pay for priority mail. I typically can only make it to a post office on a Saturday, but if asked I can probably swing it during the week.

All of this is well and good, but one thing a lot of people are forgetting is that most of the people selling records on eBay or Discogs aren't running a business - they're just doing this to make a little extra money or as a hobby to fund buying new records. I think it's unrealistic to expect everyone who sells records to grade things 100 percent accurately based on Goldmine standards - which is difficult enough for professionals, let alone a dude looking to unload some records he doesn't want anymore. There should be a mutual level of understanding on behalf of the buyer and the seller and honest communication before someone leaves neutral or negative feedback or calls someone out on a message board, whether it be over the record's condition, shipping times, or any of the myriad things that can go wrong when making faceless transactions over the Internet and through the mail.

All of this is well and good, but one thing a lot of people are forgetting is that most of the people selling records on eBay or Discogs aren't running a business - they're just doing this to make a little extra money or as a hobby to fund buying new records. I think it's unrealistic to expect everyone who sells records to grade things 100 percent accurately based on Goldmine standards - which is difficult enough for professionals, let alone a dude looking to unload some records he doesn't want anymore. There should be a mutual level of understanding on behalf of the buyer and the seller and honest communication before someone leaves neutral or negative feedback or calls someone out on a message board, whether it be over the record's condition, shipping times, or any of the myriad things that can go wrong when making faceless transactions over the Internet and through the mail.

This is one of the best threads on the internet and should be a mandatory read for a lot of the people posting in this thread: http://board.vivalavinyl.com/thread/view/21826/&p=5255
 
A lot of you sound like punishers. Don't be punishers.

Waterloo is a bit overpriced.

Colored vinyl now up at fat:
 
http://www.fatwreck.com/record/detail/283

Links for the lazy:
 
Dwarves: http://www.fatwreck.com/record/detail/283
 
LTJ: http://www.fatwreck.com/record/detail/286

Wow! A thread on VC devolves into hate speech and name calling. Now I've seen everything! /sarcasm
Can we get this back on track and talk about the records?
The Faith No More song is excellent. I'm not sold on the remix on the b-side yet, but the a-side rocks.
The quality on the Green Day record is great. Decent song selection too. Too many "ayyy ohhhs" for liking though.
I really dig the Morrissey-picked Ramones LP. Also a high-quality release. No new ground, but a cool selection of tunes.
The alternate versions of the Jenny Lewis tunes are killer.
I didn't care much for the Against Me 7". They're newer stuff isn't my cup of tea.
And the Dead Milkmen LP rules. The sound is a bit lower than my OG copy and having Bitchin' Camaro on the a-side to accommodate closing the record with Tugena kind of threw me off, but man is it a great listen. And the addition of the Cd/cassette only tracks was a nice bonus and made me feel better about buying it.
I haven't listened to the Joey Ramone 10" yet, but I already know all of the songs on it. Bought it because I'm a total sucker for Ramones-related records.
Overall, good stuff. I avoided Husker Du because it was $40 and I thought that was insane. I thought Wu-Tang was too expensive too. I may go back today. My local shop had tons of leftovers as of last night. If anyone is desperate for something (I don't know what Death Grips is, but I know they didn't have it) hit me up and I'll try to accommodate.

Wow! A thread on VC devolves into hate speech and name calling. Now I've seen everything! /sarcasm
Can we get this back on track and talk about the records?
The Faith No More song is excellent. I'm not sold on the remix on the b-side yet, but the a-side rocks.
The quality on the Green Day record is great. Decent song selection too. Too many "ayyy ohhhs" for liking though.
I really dig the Morrissey-picked Ramones LP. Also a high-quality release. No new ground, but a cool selection of tunes.
The alternate versions of the Jenny Lewis tunes are killer.
I didn't care much for the Against Me 7". They're newer stuff isn't my cup of tea.
And the Dead Milkmen LP rules. The sound is a bit lower than my OG copy and having Bitchin' Camaro on the a-side to accommodate closing the record with Tugena kind of threw me off, but man is it a great listen. And the addition of the Cd/cassette only tracks was a nice bonus and made me feel better about buying it.
I haven't listened to the Joey Ramone 10" yet, but I already know all of the songs on it. Bought it because I'm a total sucker for Ramones-related records.
Overall, good stuff. I avoided Husker Du because it was $40 and I thought that was insane. I thought Wu-Tang was too expensive too. I may go back today. My local shop had tons of leftovers as of last night. If anyone is desperate for something (I don't know what Death Grips is, but I know they didn't have it) hit me up and I'll try to accommodate.

This was my complaint when I saw them in SD at the beginning of this tour. Decently strong start, then huge drag in the middle to end of their set with slower tunes, and a decent finish and encore.
 
It was especially bad because they were following AM! who went balls out (no pun intended) for their entire set just before TGA went on. Compared to Laura Jane Grace, Brian has zero energy and presence.

Maybe. But glow in the dark records sound absolutely terrible. Worse than the worst picture discs.
It's cool - but it's going to sound awful.

Yeah, it's expensive. But it's glow in the dark, so it'll sound like shit too!

http://www.fatwreck.com/record/detail/281 - Copyrights
 
http://www.fatwreck.com/record/detail/921 - Anti-Flag
 
http://www.fatwreck.com/record/detail/279 - Get Dead
 
(bumping with links to piss off the squares)