cwhitmuzik Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 ^same can be said about many talented artists. I doubt that's the core of who they are, but some people seem to predominantly put on that sour personality for public perception. I'm sure sam is a really nice guy whenever he's not attempting for the opposite perception. But this is a dude who often expresses that sentiment through his art. He has many songs that reference consciously attempting to not be kind to people he isn't close to. That doesn't excuse it, but it signifies rudeness is not his core trait, rather a chosen one. And of course his body of work puts the blame predominantly on pills and other drug use--which of course can drastically affect one's reasoning. All I know is the dude is one of my favorite musicians. My one interaction with him (brief emails back whenever an abundance of strawberries dropped) showed him as an incredibly nice guy appreciative of someone who enjoys what he creates. Plus you knew the guy as a teenager in high school right? I was probably a selve-serving prick as a teen schoolkid too lol. College. UMD. Also, dude literally picked up his guitar in the middle of people chilling and started singing. His ego is so large, he literally just always wants to be the center of attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runforcover Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 That's a very strange example of someone being a bad person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainaldous Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 There's a guy who plays guitar on campus in places where people are trying to get shit done, all the fucking time. He is biggest piece of human garbage that I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwhitmuzik Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 That's a very strange example of someone being a bad person. it's in the middle of a party where people are chilling, he obviously just wanted to be the center of attention. also https://twitter.com/Rickyeatacid/status/523906838639960064 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrtz Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Free surprise acoustic teen suicide performance? Sounds like a pretty cool occurrence to me haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanbyronfoy Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 This thread finna get interesting real fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwhitmuzik Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 just gonna say one more thing and stay out of this after this. his hypocrisy really bothers me too. he obviously doesn't like the teen suicide stuff and the scene that's associated with, and it's going to be even more ridiculous once (redacted) since he obviously doesn't care for that at all. it's quite apparent why they currently are doing stuff even after being broken up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrtz Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Lol wait he posted that today? So he's actually bothered by your slander? lol oh man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladew1ll1s1sdead Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 just gonna say one more thing and stay out of this after this. his hypocrisy really bothers me too. he obviously doesn't like the teen suicide stuff and the scene that's associated with, and it's going to be even more ridiculous once (redacted) since he obviously doesn't care for that at all. it's quite apparent why they currently are doing stuff even after being broken upPM me the redacted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwhitmuzik Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 PM me the redacted. i'm not going to. however there is a hint in this thread, i'll say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladew1ll1s1sdead Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Ooh, I got it now. Eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwhitmuzik Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Lol wait he posted that today? So he's actually bothered by your slander? lol oh man he's called out the radio station which i work at that's hosted like every single one of his projects multiple times as well. gives me even more reason to call him out for his bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrtz Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 just gonna say one more thing and stay out of this after this. his hypocrisy really bothers me too. he obviously doesn't like the teen suicide stuff and the scene that's associated with, and it's going to be even more ridiculous once (redacted) since he obviously doesn't care for that at all. it's quite apparent why they currently are doing stuff even after being broken up I think its the same as mat denouncing the sad-teen scene that sparked up in the last few years, and the fact that their songs are often clinged to by the kids. He may not be a depressed wreck in bed sheets, but I wouldn't call it hypocritical. I think they create music that correlates to what they enjoy and feel, and listeners prop it up on tearsoaked pedestals, which conflicts with the more laidback intentions of the artists. I get the vibe they try to make fun music to share with their friends and that they are bothered whenever listeners take it out of context to fuel their self centered shallow sadness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwhitmuzik Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I think its the same as mat denouncing the sad-teen scene that sparked up in the last few years, and the fact that their songs are often clinged to by the kids. He may not be a depressed wreck in bed sheets, but I wouldn't call it hypocritical. I think they create music that correlates to what they enjoy and feel, and listeners prop it up on tearsoaked pedestals, which conflicts with the more laidback intentions of the artists. I get the vibe they try to make fun music to share with their friends and that they are bothered whenever listeners take it out of context to fuel their self centered shallow sadness i can bet he much prefers the music he makes with julia brown and REA to anything teen suicide does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrtz Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 i can bet he much prefers the music he makes with julia brown and REA to anything teen suicide does I agree, and understandably so. REA is my preferred project of his. And whenever I told him that whenever requesting the download for an abundance of strawberries he said that album was in some ways a companion piece to 3LS. So he seems to think of REA and Julia Brown as someway correlating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Tea Papi Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 My thing is that that Sam Ray has so many project and it's gotten to the point where they've become an ambiguous homogenized sound. with Ricky Eat Acid being the exception. Like I love his work and to be honest I'd get him to produce my first album but honestly: Starry Cat sounds like early Julia Brown demos, and To be Close To You which sounds like Teen Suicide B-Sides with female vocals and slight changes, and Cute Boy Kissing Booth sounds like he was trying to find his sound before the Boy Crush Split, and his work on that split resulted in an Abundance of Strawberries. Like I love love love the music he makes but you could change names of bands on some of these albums and I wouldn't doubt you for a minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrtz Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 From this point forth all future and previously released albums written by Sam Ray will be accredited to "Cap'n Sam & the Rayguns" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrtz Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 "Lt. Sam & the Rays o' Sun" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrtz Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 "Funky Sam & th' RayRamano's" batnoises 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of Breath Records Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 My thing is that that Sam Ray has so many project and it's gotten to the point where they've become an ambiguous homogenized sound. with Ricky Eat Acid being the exception. Like I love his work and to be honest I'd get him to produce my first album but honestly: Starry Cat sounds like early Julia Brown demos, and To be Close To You which sounds like Teen Suicide B-Sides with female vocals and slight changes, and Cute Boy Kissing Booth sounds like he was trying to find his sound before the Boy Crush Split, and his work on that split resulted in an Abundance of Strawberries. Like I love love love the music he makes but you could change names of bands on some of these albums and I wouldn't doubt you for a minute. Doesn't Julia Brown have a different Lineup? Wasn't Starry Cat a solo project released for Caroline's surgery or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Tea Papi Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Sam Ray and his Samwich Shop of Songs Doesn't Julia Brown have a different Lineup? Wasn't Starry Cat a solo project released for Caroline's surgery or something? Starry Cat was but he put out the Boy Crush/Starray Cat Split in October so I think he did have intentions of expanding it. Julia Brown's lineup changes a lot with no real solid members other than Sam. But with Sams hand in it, it sounds like all the other Sam Ray projects if that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrtz Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 He just has a unique recording style with a certain recurrent sound (which I personally dig very much) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchidtapes Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 no more Sam Ray / anyone hate in this thread please, obviously not the place. Ghost_Parlour*, Green Tea Papi, batnoises and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrtz Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 no more Sam Ray / anyone hate in this thread please, obviously not the place. x1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of Breath Records Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 x1000 obvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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