The Butcha Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I'll through this out there too, though I didn't ask the other guys. If you DON'T know how to play poker, but you are interested in joining, we can use tonight to help you get a fix on it. Yeah this is a good idea. Jumping into a *possible* game where cash is on the line and NOT knowing how to play...might be one of the most annoying things ever. I'v hosted many a bar games for cash when drunk fucks will step in claiming to understand the game and just totally shit the bed. Not cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzersonKillwell Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 I just want more people to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himynameisShane Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I am interested. I may not be able to tonight though. I'll get the app set up just in case though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcha Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 You can teach me tonight. Math major and math enthusiast here who would like to learn. It's all about calculating your odds. And knowing what cards you need to make your hand..given you think you are behind in a certain situation. Heres a very broken down easy example. You have 10/Jack of clubs. The flop has 2 clubs on it. You need another club to complete a flush. What are your odds on the turn and on the river? There are 13 cards for every suit. You have 4 of them currently so there are 9 left. After the flop you can do a simple X 4 to learn your percentage going into the turn. So 9 x 4 = you have roughly a 36% chance of making a flush. That ratio goes down if you miss a club on the turn. Now going into the river you do 9 x 2 = you have roughly an 18% chance of making your flush. This all comes into play with the size of the pot also and pot odds. Taking those percentages and turning them into odds based on the bet sizes of the pot that you are in. If the pot is currently $40 of play money and some makes a pot sized bet into you of $40 and you have a 36% chance. You aren't getting good enough pot odds to make a call and chase a flush you may not hit. If they bet half the pot ($20) you're usually getting 2 to 1 on your money to continue and chase your cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcX Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I don't have a computer *fart noise* I know it was mentioned that it doesn't work on mobile, but it could've been erroneous. There's definitely a Poker Stars app. I don't know how functional it is, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Online gambling for real money is illegal in the US of A. If/WHEN we do play for real money we will designate a person to be the 'bank'. Send them our money via paypal. And once the game is over we will get paid our winnings.I'm too shitty at cards XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcha Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Thats just the way that I see poker. It doesn't help me one bit when I sit at a table with people that aren't thinking about the game the same way that I am. I tend to do better taking a grand to a casino and playing a high limit game with other players that think a little more similar than I do. It's always fun and a challenge for me personally to play with people that don't think like me and to alter my game to a different thought process and try to out play them. I have studied poker for wayyyyy too long. /myhobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcha Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Figuring these odds in a time controlled tournament online like tonight is not as easy. I usually spend my stare down time at a table where I'm looking into your soul figuring out these numbers. <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Figuring these odds in a time controlled tournament online like tonight is not as easy. I usually spend my stare down time at a table where I'm looking into your soul figuring out these numbers. <3 Motherfucker, I have no soul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcX Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Thats just the way that I see poker. It doesn't help me one bit when I sit at a table with people that aren't thinking about the game the same way that I am. I tend to do better taking a grand to a casino and playing a high limit game with other players that think a little more similar than I do. It's always fun and a challenge for me personally to play with people that don't think like me and to alter my game to a different thought process and try to out play them. I have studied poker for wayyyyy too long. /myhobby I'm curious about the math behind multiplying the amount of cards in [suit] by four to get a percentage. If there's nine cards your interested in, dividing 9 by (52 subtracted by how many cards are not in the deck) should give you the percentage... And then there's the possibility of other people having [suit] in their hand. Not doubting your methods, as you've been playing this for much longer than I have, but in order for 9/x to equal 36%, there needs to be 25 cards -- less than half of the deck -- to draw from, assuming no other players have [suit]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcha Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Motherfucker, I have no soul Good. I'll still stare into your eyes and make you feel as uncomfortable as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcha Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I'm curious about the math behind multiplying the amount of cards in [suit] by four to get a percentage. If there's nine cards your interested in, dividing 9 by (52 subtracted by how many cards are not in the deck) should give you the percentage... And then there's the possibility of other people having [suit] in their hand. Not doubting your methods, as you've been playing this for much longer than I have, but in order for 9/x to equal 36%, there needs to be 25 cards -- less than half of the deck -- to draw from, assuming no other players have [suit]. Those percentages are based on that all 9 cards are still in possible play of hitting the table. You don't ever really calculate what could be in someone else's hand. It's a good thing to think about, but doesn't go into the calculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcX Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 But still, if there's 3 cards in the flop, and 9x2 = 18 cards in people's hands, that's 21 cards out of play, and 52 - 21 = 31, 9/31 is <36% :B Again, that's just what's going through my head. Not doubting your method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcX Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 It is about 30% tho, so close enough. If there's less people, though, that percentage goes down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcha Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 But still, if there's 3 cards in the flop, and 9x2 = 18 cards in people's hands, that's 21 cards out of play, and 52 - 21 = 31, 9/31 is <36% :B Again, that's just what's going through my head. Not doubting your method. I totallllly get it. Why do you not calculate whats in other peoples hands? I don't know. Poker has been around for a very very long time and that's just the method for that game. If you watch poker on tv and work the percentages on the screen, thats what they are using to figure them. I know its weird and probably fucks with a lot of math guys' heads like yours but thats just the way the cookie crumbles I guess. Figure out a better way and have an edge on me! I'm into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcX Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Ohhh waiit, yeah, don't they use "infinite decks," ie decks with way more than 52 cards to make counting cards impossible or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Fuckin nerds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcha Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Ohhh waiit, yeah, don't they use "infinite decks," ie decks with way more than 52 cards to make counting cards impossible or something? Negative. You can only use a full 52 card deck in a poker game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcha Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Fuckin nerds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcX Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Here is the instruction you need to get signed up to play with us. I have already 'created' the tournament for tonights free run trail. So anyone playing needs to sign up on poker stars and then also register for the tournament. It will be starting at 8PMEST. This is tournament style. Playing down from 9 or so players to only 1 remaining. If/WHEN real money is involved there will be payouts for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place finishers. For tonights game I have set the starting chip stacks at 3K. Blinds go up every 15 minutes. And there will be a few breaks to make additional tacos. As I am the mod on the actual poker stars client all I have to do on my end is accept your request to join the club on the app and then you guys just need to register for the tournament I have created. So get to it if you're in for tonight! Also, the "home game" feature that we are using to play this is only accessible through a PC/Mac. You wont be able to run this software off of your mobile device or tablet. I canNOT find the Join a Poker Club Button Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcha Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Go into the older poker thread we have and there's another screen shot image. You need to click "more" on the bottom right then click "home game" then join a poker club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Negative. You can only use a full 52 card deck in a poker game. How do you count cards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 And I agree with Brucie. I could make it easier on myself and just PP you the money now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcha Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 How do you count cards? Counting cards is fun. I used to do it when I played blackjack. Eli, I'm actually banned from the treasure chest for counting cards. And Rez just go watch the movie 21. Gambling was my early 20s in a nutshell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzersonKillwell Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 I canNOT find the Join a Poker Club Button There is like a ... more button on the right side of the lobby interface, from there you select "Home Games" and then you find the Join Poker CLub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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