zacaroo21 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I'm totally against finely..he's a turd. Wilson isn't a bad choice though. I drafted on Friday and got some decent slots...not super stoked ony rb situation though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3arl Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I drafted on Sunday and came away pretty good. Starters QB - Russell Wilson RB - Adrian Peterson RB - Maurice Jones-Drew WR - Brandon Marshall WR - Dwayne Bowe WR - Eric Decker TE - Greg Olsen FLEX - Reggie Bush K - Sebastian Janikowski D - San Francisco Bench QB - Matt Stafford RB - Chris Ivory RB - Ronnie Hillman RB - Jacquizz Rodgers WR - DeSean Jackson WR - Anquan Boldin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivek87 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I'm totally against finely..he's a turd. Wilson isn't a bad choice though. I drafted on Friday and got some decent slots...not super stoked ony rb situation though the only thing i like about him is im getting him in the 10th round. i also have someone i really like at TE that im drafting in the 14th. yeah i would like to wait longer on qb, but where i was getting wilson, 6th round, seems fair to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivek87 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I drafted on Sunday and came away pretty good. very nice. was that 10 or 12? guessing you nabbed wilson in the 6th as well? ap, mjd, marshal, bowe, decker, wilson? also, im really high on a mjd comeback, not as huge as ap, but top 8 rb finishibility. (made that word up) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seangj Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 so what do you all think of this line up in a 12 team league? i feel like im able to share this because its a keeper league and i am keeping 1 out of 3 and i have draft picks from year 1 that makes it unusual enough that my team on vc will be drafted very differently. what do you all think of these combos. hiding some players bc of sleepers. which team do you like the most and if the one guy i think that is also only keeping 1 and keeps 2, who should i pick if i have the option of jax/ridley? qb - russel wilson wr - a. johnson wr - wes welker wr - victor cruz rb - mjd rb - ridley or s. jackson (i know both are getting dropped from a keeper team, so ill take whoever i can out of them) te - jermichael finley flex - james jones/lamar miller d/st - falcons k - st. louis k ====================== qb - russel wilson wr - larry wr - colston wr - amendola rb - mjd rb - ridley or s. jackson (i know both are getting dropped from a keeper team, so ill take whoever i can out of them) te - jermichael finley flex - daryl richardson/lamar miller/torrey smith d/st - cowboys d k - giants kicker ============ qb - russel wilson wr - dwayne bowe wr - wes welker wr - a. johnson rb - mjd rb - ridley or s. jackson (i know both are getting dropped from a keeper team, so ill take whoever i can out of them) te - jermichael finley flex - daryl richardson/levon bell/torrey smith d/st - detroit d k - ravens k I like option 2. All 3 of those WRs should have a great season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3arl Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 very nice. was that 10 or 12? guessing you nabbed wilson in the 6th as well? ap, mjd, marshal, bowe, decker, wilson? also, im really high on a mjd comeback, not as huge as ap, but top 8 rb finishibility. (made that word up) it's only an 8 team league which is why its such a nice roster, but i agree about mjd, especially since that offence has no one else who can produce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacaroo21 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 So I drafted in the 9th position out of 10 and ended up with: Qb: Cam, Luck WR: Dez, Cobb, Knicks, Heyward-Bey RB: McFadden, McCoy, Z.Stacy, Greene, LeShore, BJGE TE: martellus, Z.miller DST: San Fran, NYG Not super stoked but I think it should be a decent start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivek87 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 2 defenses and 2 qbs in a 10 man league? are you starting 2 qbs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacaroo21 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Only starting 1 qb I had to go on auto draft for the last several rounds because I was at a show...how I ended up with 2 DST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivek87 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Only starting 1 qb I had to go on auto draft for the last several rounds because I was at a show...how I ended up with 2 DST. frikkn auto draft. you would think it would realize you dont want a 2nd defense. i could see it autodrafting a back up qb, but the defense part is crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacaroo21 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Yeah, I'm normally not about 2 qbs but most everyone in that league does it, so you're forced to in defense or be stuck with someone super terrible for the off week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedinexile Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 its a keeper league Thinking of turning my league into a keeper, and out if curiosity I was wondering what rules you go by? I see tons of different rules and variations, and am unsure what to go by. How many players can you keep? Do you forfeit any draft picks? If you do, are they in the same round as the player you drafted and kept from last year? Can you keep the same player for more than one season? Can they be first round picks? What about players whom you picked up off waivers last year, and want to keep? What pick would you lose by doing so? Sorry for all the questions. I just wish there was a consensus on how keeper leagues are operated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivek87 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Thinking of turning my league into a keeper, and out if curiosity I was wondering what rules you go by? I see tons of different rules and variations, and am unsure what to go by. How many players can you keep? Do you forfeit any draft picks? If you do, are they in the same round as the player you drafted and kept from last year? Can you keep the same player for more than one season? Can they be first round picks? What about players whom you picked up off waivers last year, and want to keep? What pick would you lose by doing so? Sorry for all the questions. I just wish there was a consensus on how keeper leagues are operated. ours is pretty simple, i've heard many and different confusing ways to go about keeper leagues, but ours is simple. you can keep up to 3 total players that you finished your previous season with regardless how long or little they have been on your team. so the first three rounds in this years draft will go like this; you can either keep any player from your previous roster or say you aren't keeping a player. (can keep 1, 2, or all 3) the first three rounds will look like that. after those three rounds end, all players not kept/were free agents/rookies will be available to players who didn't keep a player or players. you will select in draft order from the first 3 rounds. one mystery right now is not knowing who is keeping who and who is dropping players, im pretty sure i have it figured out though. i'm sure that wasn't all that clear, so let me know what other qs you have. one nice thing is a lot of trades happened last season because they not only involved trading players, but picks from this years draft too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivek87 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 von millers suspension seems official. can he still appeal? maybe not since its a 2nd offense? i don't know. luckily, denvers woes are seem to be really promising for the ravens offense come opening night. they will definitely need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3arl Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 von millers suspension seems official. can he still appeal? maybe not since its a 2nd offense? i don't know. luckily, denvers woes are seem to be really promising for the ravens offense come opening night. they will definitely need it. If the nfl announced a suspension then the appeals window has passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivek87 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 If the nfl announced a suspension then the appeals window has passed. well luck be a lady. (a lady named von miller) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 ours is pretty simple, i've heard many and different confusing ways to go about keeper leagues, but ours is simple. you can keep up to 3 total players that you finished your previous season with regardless how long or little they have been on your team. so the first three rounds in this years draft will go like this; you can either keep any player from your previous roster or say you aren't keeping a player. (can keep 1, 2, or all 3) the first three rounds will look like that. after those three rounds end, all players not kept/were free agents/rookies will be available to players who didn't keep a player or players. you will select in draft order from the first 3 rounds. one mystery right now is not knowing who is keeping who and who is dropping players, im pretty sure i have it figured out though. i'm sure that wasn't all that clear, so let me know what other qs you have. one nice thing is a lot of trades happened last season because they not only involved trading players, but picks from this years draft too. Even simple rules regarding keepers can lead to complex situations (and arguments). The key decision to make going in is whether you are going to allow people to give up on the current season to improve on the next. Do you allow someone to trade their 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th best players for someone else's #2? It might make sense for both teams -- one is in the playoffs and the other only cares about consolidating talent for next year's keepers. Trading draft picks ahead a year makes things even more complicated. Key to me is that the first decision you need to make is this -- Is it OK for someone to give up on this year for the next? The answer can be yes or no, and both work. The key is that everyone knows what playing field they are on. If the answer is no, the trade I proposed above should be rejected. If this answer is yes, it should go through. I'm a bigger fan of the "no" answer -- you should build good keepers through shrewd drafting, FA pickups, and trades that are reasonably even but work out for you. It keeps the emphasis on competing every year but with a tie-over from year to year. The other way (in my experience) leads to a lot of bickering about "he's giving up...not fair...I was in the hunt and he gave most of his good players to my competition...Now I have to give up on my top keepers to keep up...". The easiest rule to enforce is "judge every trade as if there were no keeper implications beyond this year". Keeps it the way I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivek87 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 one thing that makes our league pretty great is that all 12 of us are the biggest trash talkers and are way too competitive. obviously that can be said for every league. another thing is we have a pretty early trade deadline and then during the summer months, trading comes back open. we also have a pretty good commish who will lay the law down if any type of collusion is going on. oh and the biggest thing, we have a sacko bowl for the bottom 4 and the sackos is in charge of buying the keg and being beer bitch for the next seasons draft. tanking on purpose doesn't help too much because you aren't going to have great keepers and your first pick minus the FA/released players list that you get is in the 4th round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Well in that case the cost might be making the trade deadline so early that by the time you figure out where you are weak or strong, the deadline hits. "Collusion" is subjective. If I lose my first 4, is it collusion if I trade all my middle talent for one good keeper? Depends on the rules of the league (my statements above about deciding how the league will handle trades beforehand). If your system works for your league, awesome. I just think its best to think ahead about the "what-if" scenarios than have a clusterfuck when someone makes a trade that isn't 100% about playing for the win this year. I've been in leagues where the clusterfuck has gotten out of control (like a trade I'd vetoed, the guys get pissed, and continue to put the trade in a bunch more times afterwards, getting vetoed every time). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivek87 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 i hear you, if we all weren't so close, i think it could definitely go south fast, but considering most of the league meets together every sunday, we all kind of keep ourselves in check. give me an example of the trade your suggesting with players. i'm just curious as to what it would like and if we need to go over a similar situation with my league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I don't even remember what the trade was but say someone has Aaron Rodgers and he gets injured for first 6 games. Still a keeper next year. Their second player is good, say Jimmy Graham. The team starts 0-4. They decide that their chances of making the playoffs are so slim that they focus on next year. So they trade victor Cruz, roddy white, and Reggie Bush for Doug Martin. It's not unreasonable that someone could have all those players in a draft. From one point of view, makes sense. One team (out of it) gets a young, stud back who is a top 5 player. The other team (going for it this year) gets a LOT of talent back for their #1 player and looks stacked for this year. Everyone else gets screwed though. They have to deal with a loaded team this year and a dude with mega keepers next. Obviously, player values are always fluctuating and these players won't be ranked the same in week 5. Just had to use current ratings as a surrogate for the real ones (which if I knew, I'd never lose). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Pat white sighting!!!! So happy to see him on the field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seangj Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Another 4 turnover game for the Broncos. They need to tighten that up. Also Ball needs to be the #1 back. Hillman is not reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3arl Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Another 4 turnover game for the Broncos. They need to tighten that up. Also Ball needs to be the #1 back. Hillman is not reliable. I don't think that'll happen on Fox's watch. He's historically not very high on rookie backs. But I do suspect he'll be the redzone back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 auction draft tomorrow night, and i worked out my ideal budgeting today. here's kind of the best case scenario team that i devised based on what i'm looking to spend at each position: matt ryan alfred morris david wilson victor cruz danny amendola vernon davis seattle defense matt bryant eric decker at flex i have 3-5 choices at each position. not looking to spend buttloads on the elite when i can be economical and still field a solid lineup. any advice on improvements to be made? i've left myself $35-50 to spend on my bench. it's a 14 team league, so i'm trying to eliminate relying on the waiver wire as much as possible. i would really like to get russell wilson, maybe eli for my 2nd qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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