3arl Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Seriously though, if got 18.5 sacs while smoking weed and popping molly, then more power to him. But as Richard Sherman proved, you can appeal all season long and when it doesn't matter anymore, they'll take away your penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefchino Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 I always found it a bit ridiculous to suspend guys for using marijuana. I understand the whole image thing but if they wouldn't test them for it, we wouldn't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivek87 Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 you know i hate the pats, especially belicheck, but he gave a great presser about hernandez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seangj Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 you know i hate the pats, especially belicheck, but he gave a great presser about hernandez. I'm in the same boat and I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivek87 Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 i hope with them moving past it, tebowmania is on its way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 thought it was really kinda funny that he said they really investigate into the background of the players they draft, their history, performance, their family history, blahblahblah... which if that were true, then flags should have gone up when they looked into Hernandez since he was not an angel at Florida. good for him to say that, but I dont believe that matters(mattered) to them at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefchino Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I guess not getting a Percy Harvin jersey this year was a good call. What a blow to the Seahawks if its true that his hip tear might put him out for a lot of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivek87 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 thought it was really kinda funny that he said they really investigate into the background of the players they draft, their history, performance, their family history, blahblahblah... which if that were true, then flags should have gone up when they looked into Hernandez since he was not an angel at Florida. good for him to say that, but I dont believe that matters(mattered) to them at all. Well I know there was a letter he had written prior to the draft which apparently made the FO want to give him a second chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seangj Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Percy Harvin needs surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefchino Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Ok so we suspend players for smoking pot but let someone that's obviously stoned out of their mind to plan the pro bowl. nivek87 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoidantroyd Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Drew Brees is a shitty tipper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3arl Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I usually like Bleacher Report and their lists/rankings are usually pretty accurate. But this is the weirdest and most poorly thought out thing I've ever seen. It's not even like the writer was playing favorites, he's just a moron. Bleacher Report's Top 100 NFL Players: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1607142-br-nfl-1000-top-100-players-overall/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I usually like Bleacher Report and their lists/rankings are usually pretty accurate. But this is the weirdest and most poorly thought out thing I've ever seen. It's not even like the writer was playing favorites, he's just a moron. Bleacher Report's Top 100 NFL Players: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1607142-br-nfl-1000-top-100-players-overall/ I don't have time to read all of them. Just leaved through the list. Any specific statements you want to pull out as examples? It's hard to say too much about the rankings without reading the reasoning, but my first thought was that it was nice to see a list that gave adequate respect to positions like guard and fullback, instead of just focusing heavily on the dudes who get fantasy football headlines (qbs, receivers, running backs, and rush ends). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3arl Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I don't have time to read all of them. Just leaved through the list. Any specific statements you want to pull out as examples? It's hard to say too much about the rankings without reading the reasoning, but my first thought was that it was nice to see a list that gave adequate respect to positions like guard and fullback, instead of just focusing heavily on the dudes who get fantasy football headlines (qbs, receivers, running backs, and rush ends). I get including the non-glamorous positions, but they included a lot. But one big example of what I have wrong with the list is that Arian Foster (who the author referred to as an "underdog"), Doug Martin, and Marshawn Lynch were all ranked in the 90s. And all ranked below Shady McCoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I'd say he's making the case that Arian has always ran behind one of the couple best lines in the league and while good, put McCoy on the team and he'll put up more points. He doesn't explicitly mention injury either but Foster is definitely deserving of the label "injury prone" at this point. Whether his ability to scout talent as if judging in a vacuum is good or not, I have no idea. I'd probably take beast mode if I was starting a team for this year (so not really worrying about age implications). Anyone can hit a wide open hole. No one breaks tackles like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3arl Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Basically the guy made up metrics for skills at every position. And every one adds up to 100. And then all players are ranked based on that score. Which makes no sense to me. Positions are naturally on un even playing fields. It's basically saying the best offensive guard is better than the third best QB because his arbitrary number is higher. And it would make a little more sense if his logic followed what you were saying about potential if RBs ran behind a good line. But if that was his logic, then CJ2K would be high on the list. But he's not even on it. Also I just realized Cam Newton isn't on it. And neither is Darrelle Revis. And CJ Spiller is somehow number 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I like ranking Spiller that high. His yards per attempt are superb. Rather give credit to a guy who splits time but nails it when called on than a guy who just gets a lot of volume (which you could argue, given that his RAT isn't that great). Not saying I would, but I could see the argument. I'd probably give Newton a rating around 50-75. There's room for both kinds of lists -- ones that put a ton of weight on positional impact and ones that don't. Given positional impact, there is no way that Watt could be #1 and the top 5 should almost automatically be QBs. No other position has close to the impact on the overall team performance as the QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seangj Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 There's room for both kinds of lists -- ones that put a ton of weight on positional impact and ones that don't. Given positional impact, there is no way that Watt could be #1 and the top 5 should almost automatically be QBs. No other position has close to the impact on the overall team performance as the QB. This nails it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyFuckingPowers Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Cant wait for Cowboys kickoff tonight. As for Von Miller, how are you going to suspend a guy for smoking something thats fucking legal in the state he plays in? Really?! chefchino 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Cant wait for Cowboys kickoff tonight. As for Von Miller, how are you going to suspend a guy for smoking something thats fucking legal in the state he plays in? Really?! Weed still an illegal substance by federal law. States can't overrule the federal government (a la the CIvil War). An employer has the right to suspend/fire someone for repeated substance abuse. Just giving the counterargument. Your point is very valid. I think that the federal government is going to squash these legalized states eventually. In normal times, they probably would have already. Just have bigger fish to fry right now with topics like unemployment, sequestration, wrapping up the wars, etc. As a federal government employee they tell you on the first day that it is illegal and not allowed under any circumstances. Even with a doctor's prescription for medicinal marijuana in any state, you will get busted if they test you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 There are technically "prohormones" that aren't illegal either. A prohormone is for all intents and purposes a steroid, but it only stimulates the body's testosterone creation, not supplements it. Chemists keep changing the chemical formula, which makes it hard for the scientists to keep the substances banned. Doubt anyone busted for roids ever tries to use that as an excuse, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgato48 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Lets play some football!!!!!! Even if it is only pre season some football is better than no football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
videogamesandvinyl Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Lets play some football!!!!!! Even if it is only pre season some football is better than no football I agree man! Preseason is prefantasy season IMO. Draft prep gets started and the scouting begins, haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivek87 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 It feels good to know football is back. And just so everyone in the league knows, I'm still alive and haven't stolen anyone's money. Just been busy with a move to va beach and have been commuting to Richmond to finish out my last 2 weeks. The date mike sent me sounds perfect to me for the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyFuckingPowers Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Lets play some football!!!!!! Even if it is only pre season some football is better than no football I agree man! Preseason is prefantasy season IMO. Draft prep gets started and the scouting begins, haha! Both of these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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