ronniethebear Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 I'm listening to a Gish/Siamese Dream-era collection of b-sides and live versions and it makes me really sad to think about the new incarnation of the "Pumpkins" (although it's really unfair to even refer to them as that, without James and D'arcy). Up next, Mellon Collie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defanatic1758 Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 I wish Billy Corgan wasn't such an asshole. I also wish the band would just call it a day already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmorgan Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 I'm listening to a Gish/Siamese Dream-era collection of b-sides and live versions and it makes me really sad to think about the new incarnation of the "Pumpkins" (although it's really unfair to even refer to them as that, without James and D'arcy). Up next, Mellon Collie. I find its better for the psyche to just think of it as ZWAN version 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Hey Billy himself said bands are only usually good for three albums. Maybe he just set out to prove himself right. Odd sidenote, if you look through bands catalogs, three albums is usually the magic number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylovesdrunks Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 ^not for the bands i truly love- the cure, modest mouse, blink 182- all more than 3 good albums. but i can see how many bands would fall under this category. once upon a time, i love the smashing pumpkins. but when you're not 13 & depressed, their music just isn't that appealing. plus, the deeper you dig back, you can see that they were never really THAT original. and some of the lyrics are pretty good, but some are fucking awful. i'll still cite siamese dream as one of my favourite albums, but everything adore and after is really only good for 1 or 2 good songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottheisel Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 the bands i truly love- the cure, modest mouse, blink 182 the bands i truly love- the cure, modest mouse, blink 182 the bands i truly love- the cure, modest mouse, blink 182 the bands i truly love- the cure, modest mouse, blink 182 the bands i truly love- the cure, modest mouse, blink 182 God, I wish I had room in my signature for that gem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmoney Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 machina is one my favorite pumpkins album... i know i am in the minority but i love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmorgan Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 machina is one my favorite pumpkins album... i know i am in the minority but i love it. I don't know that its one of my favorites, but I definitely would agree that it has some great songs on it. Underrated, perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilstrombone Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 I agree that they should have ended with Mellon Collie. What an epic ending that would have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skumbucket Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 personally, "adore" is my favourite. "mellon collie" -- like most double albums -- had no business being a double album. some -- like say anything -- don't have any business being even a single album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillho Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 ZWAN was terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmoney Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 personally, "adore" is my favourite. "mellon collie" -- like most double albums -- had no business being a double album. some -- like say anything -- don't have any business being even a single album. my order: machina > siamese dream > mellon collie > adore > zeitgeist > gish > pisces i have never been able to get into gish - but those first four above are brilliant imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 yeah im gonna vote adore as one of the most underrated albums of the 90's... shit was pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmorgan Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 machina > siamese dream > mellon collie > adore > zeitgeist > gish > pisces Here's mine: Siamese Dream >>>>> Mellon Collie > Gish > Pisces > Machina > Adore Zeitgeist counts as a Zwan album Also I haven't heard it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrc Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 ZWAN was terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediocore Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 They were a pretty good live band in their day too. Not sure what they're like now, but I remember seeing them in 8th or 9th grade (w/ Garbage) -- good times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmoney Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 once again in the minority, but i liked zwan... their live show was much better than the album though. i like a happy billy corgan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 They're playing here next Tuesday. I'd go...for free...Can't see myself paying full ticket price for what I consider now to be a Smashing Pumpkins cover band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilstrombone Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 They were a pretty good live band in their day too. Not sure what they're like now, but I remember seeing them in 8th or 9th grade (w/ Garbage) -- good times. I saw them on this tour. Garbage sucked, SP rocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediocore Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 They were a pretty good live band in their day too. Not sure what they're like now, but I remember seeing them in 8th or 9th grade (w/ Garbage) -- good times. I saw them on this tour. Garbage sucked, SP rocked. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidamnesiac Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 smashing pumpkins have always been one of my favorite bands. i'll agree that zeitgeist isn't their best work, but saying that it's no longer the pumpkins or zwan 2.0 is just not right. i've always felt that the smashing pumpkins were billy and jimmy. on the recording and writing end of things, at least. james, i guess, wrote a few of the pumpkins great songs back in the day, but d'arcy? i guess i am disappointed to not have them all together in a way. but i'm so stoked that billy and jimmy now are. and zeitgeist is pumpkins. just not best pumpkins. saw them on their latest tour. amazing show. hearing starla played live was almost the highlight of my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyk36 Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 once again in the minority, but i liked zwan... their live show was much better than the album though.i like a happy billy corgan. agreed. Also, is it just me or is darcy a horrible bass player? I remember when they played on SNL years ago and it looked as if someone had to have been playing her bass lines off the stage. It was like tia carrere in Wayne's World. that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kouka Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 ZWAN was terrible. someone sell me their ZWAN record!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defanatic1758 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 once again in the minority, but i liked zwan... their live show was much better than the album though.i like a happy billy corgan. agreed. Also, is it just me or is darcy a horrible bass player? I remember when they played on SNL years ago and it looked as if someone had to have been playing her bass lines off the stage. It was like tia carrere in Wayne's World. that bad. This one? http://video.yahoo.com/watch/805952/3379720 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyk36 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 ^^^^yep that's the one, cameron diaz was the host for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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