mystic84 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I'm pissed as fuck. I got today a package and obviuosly the records are all fucked up. Fuck! I got some test pressings, and three copies of Boogada. The tests paper jackets are quite damged, and the corners of the Bogada's are banged. Obviously. I mean, what the hell, if you're a seller you should take care of your records records also when you ship them! Putting six records in just a simple box without no fucking piece of carboard or bubble wrap, means wasting em straight to hell. If you care about them, then find a way to ship them as safe as possible: two different packages, or a big box so you can fill it with protecting materials. This means you care! As No Idea did whne they sjhipped to me six or sevent records. Shipping records the way I got them today, means you don't give a fuck about them and about the buyer too. I hoped the seller would have provided to ship them safely without asking him to. Instead... Dudes I'm so pissed I would throw em in the waste right now. Sorry for this vent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyljunkie Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 www.livejournal.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hickey Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Also, you live in Italy where the postal service is fucked beyond repair...I've heard nothing but horror stories. As long as the records were in a proper mailer, they should've been fine. Don't blame the sender, blame your fucked up mail system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystic84 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 Maybe this could be shared with vinyl records collectors, dont you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
element101 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 i recently got a package from germany and it had about an inch of tape wrapped around the box. amazing really! It's crazy how careless foreign mail services are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystic84 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 The box was quite alright, but it was too small to keep safe all of those records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
element101 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 sucks man. talk to the seller. let him know how to ship records so other collectors like yourself arent opening a box of mangled vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
affront Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Also, you live in Italy where the postal service is fucked beyond repair...I've heard nothing but horror stories. As long as the records were in a proper mailer, they should've been fine. Don't blame the sender, blame your fucked up mail system. Seconded!!! I have no idea what your postal service do with your records but if they don't get stolen they usually end up bashed. I am amazed that Virgil ships to Italy, so many companies have stopped because the postal system is completely fucked over there. I certainly don't - it is the ONLY place in Europe I won't ship to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystic84 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 By the way, how are the packages that you receive and that have been shipped inside the States? I mean, are they alwasy perfect with no bangs? Or what? I ask you this because I have no idea about this: I just see boxes shipped by italian mailmen (...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hickey Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 By the way, how are the packages that you receive and that have been shipped inside the States? I mean, are they alwasy perfect with no bangs? Or what? I ask you this because I have no idea about this: I just see boxes shipped by italian mailmen (...). Most domestic shipments I receive arrive 100% perfect. Occasionally, you get a dinged corner or a slight warp. I've never received anything broken or damaged to the point where I was pissed off. You take your chances with mail order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystic84 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 By the way, how are the packages that you receive and that have been shipped inside the States? I mean, are they alwasy perfect with no bangs? Or what? I ask you this because I have no idea about this: I just see boxes shipped by italian mailmen (...). Most domestic shipments I receive arrive 100% perfect. Occasionally, you get a dinged corner or a slight warp. I've never received anything broken or damaged to the point where I was pissed off. You take your chances with mail order. I'm forced to take my chances, since here are no record stores that sell the records I like. So for me mail order is the only way to go. I wonder why the italian postal system sucks ass so much. Probably italian mailmen don't give a fuck about what they're handling so we end up receiving stuff which insn't, once arrived, in the same condition it was when it got mailed out. This is very very sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 You've got a few things working against you. First, you live in Italy where, as stated, your postal service is notoriously bad. Second, you're on the other side of the ocean, and it costs more to ship. The more extraneous packaging used the more it will cost, and of course no one ever wants to pay for the shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystic84 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 You know what? I guess postal services in general shoul be held responsible for damaged stuff a little more often. Do you think I'm the only italian guy who's pissed with the italian postal service? Maybe if we begin to make our voices heard, things can change. If we just get pissed and nothing more, everything will be always the same. And in the end, when you ship something you put it in the postal service hands, trusting it. Unfortunately I guess the postal service can't be held responsible for dameged stuff. But I wonder, who must be held responsible for the stuff that get damged during shipping, if not people who handles it and delivers it at my door? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystic84 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 When one ships stuff, he should pack it up the most safe way possible. And the post workers should take care of it. I'm really sad this evening: I wanted those records so much... Damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Post pics of the packaging and the damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
translatingthename Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 why is the postal service so bad in italy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystic84 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 Who knows. Because nothing works in Italy, not even basic services like the postal one or the railways. I'm not exagarating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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enjoyadrian Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 that's shitty. sorry friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystic84 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 That's real shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystic84 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 What would you do with those records, now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefwahoo Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 You can blame the postal system and the fact that he is overseas all you want, but in my opinion if it's packaged right, these type of problems are few and far between. I package the hell out of anything I ship. The better something is packed, the better the condition it will arrive in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystic84 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 You can blame the postal system and the fact that he is overseas all you want, but in my opinion if it's packaged right, these type of problems are few and far between. I package the hell out of anything I ship. The better something is packed, the better the condition it will arrive in. That's what I told, among all the other stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apeman Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I live overseas, and the general rule with vinyl shipped from the States is that well-packed records arrive safely - and carelessly packed records arrive looking like crap. Of course, while dealing with relatively fragile material like record sleeves you can't avoid the eventual small bumps and tiny crushes to the corners. But sturdy mailers, bubble wrap and shipping lp's outside of the outer jackets and making sure that the contents won't slide around inside the box during transit - that'll make sure most problems never happen. The one single country, that I've been having reoccurring trouble with receiving records from, is England. The quality of their record mailers is extremely bad - floppy, thin cardboard that offers no protection and vanishes into thin air after just the slightest exposure to water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melikecheese Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Most domestic shipments I receive arrive 100% perfect. Occasionally, you get a dinged corner or a slight warp. I've never received anything broken or damaged to the point where I was pissed off. You take your chances with mail order. I'm forced to take my chances, since here are no record stores that sell the records I like. So for me mail order is the only way to go. I wonder why the italian postal system sucks ass so much. Probably italian mailmen don't give a fuck about what they're handling so we end up receiving stuff which insn't, once arrived, in the same condition it was when it got mailed out. This is very very sad. That sucks!!! You guys have a great rock n roll scene out there. I love Love Boat! I get stuff from Italy alot, always in good condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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