controlthebleeding Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/local/37069754.html?video=YHI&t=a That kid had some balls!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest streetcore Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 wasn't he on Malcolm in the middle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
controlthebleeding Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 wasn't he on Malcolm in the middle? you beat me to the punch.. he looks like dewey!...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I'm pretty sure I could take that kid, if it came down to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hickey Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 There's something not right about that kid; like "gonna shoot up a school" not right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minty Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 "When you look at him, Drew doesn't look tough." Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 ugh, more negative publicity for pit bulls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettall Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 ugh, more negative publicity for pit bull owners. Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 the problem is that people blame the breed, not the deed. it's sad. pit bulls actually temperment test as well or better than golden retrievers and beagles, and used to be called 'nanny dogs' because they're so good with kids. people see stories like this in the news and make false presumptions, rather than learn the facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keymanmk Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 the problem is that people blame the breed, not the deed.it's sad. pit bulls actually temperment test as well or better than golden retrievers and beagles, and used to be called 'nanny dogs' because they're so good with kids. people see stories like this in the news and make false presumptions, rather than learn the facts. Backed 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minty Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 the problem is that people blame the breed, not the deed.it's sad. pit bulls actually temperment test as well or better than golden retrievers and beagles, and used to be called 'nanny dogs' because they're so good with kids. people see stories like this in the news and make false presumptions, rather than learn the facts. Ashamed to say that I am one of the people that just goes with the stories! I'll think twice about that from now on. Any dog can be nice, it just needs to be raised right and treated well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 http://www.badrap.org/rescue/myths.cfm http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Articles/OtherBreedBites/AllDogsBite.htm and for a little positive press: http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Articles/PositivePress/positivepress.htm im a huge pit bull (and all bully breeds) advocate, if you couldnt tell, haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 http://pitbulls.iwarp.com/photo.html these pictures make me go 'aawwwwww'! :] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante3000 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Somewhere Micheal Vic is smiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 michael vick wouldn't have the balls to do what that kid did. he just made the dogs fight each other, the cowardly scumbag. i hope he rots for what he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokithelion Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 The problem with bully breeds is the people can't be trusted with them. In the wrong hands they're extremely dangerous, and it becomes and issue of "is public safety less important that the cute warm fuzzys!" I wish there were more hardcore regulations placed on Pit owners and sellers. The breed wont be viewed as anything but brutal dangerous mutts until attacks caused by shady owners not watching their pets stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 really, any breed of dog can be dangerous when treated improperly. i agree about the irresponsible owners needing to be held accountable, but i don't see how punishing the whole breed along with the responsible owners would help. it's a tough call, but the bad rap pits are given is really undeserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviolentworld Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 i have never studied dog attacks and all that but you can have 100 beagle attacks and 1 pit bull attack and that pit attack is going to be way worse in my opinion. its all instinct.........its in their (all dogs) nature no matter how well you train i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 pit bulls actually tested better in temperment tests than beagles. "No more vicious than golden retrievers, beagles or other popular dogs! In a recent study of 122 dog breeds by the American Temperament Testing Society (ATTS), pit bulls achieved a passing rate of 83.9%. That's as good or better than beagles ... 78.2%, and golden retrievers ... 83.2%." source: badrap.org check for yourself: http://www.atts.org/statistics.html actually, pit bulls (american pit bull terrier if you're looking it up) is up to 84.3%, to update the statistic in that quote. the only reason i could think of that would make a pit bull attack 'worse' is because they're a slightly bigger more muscular breed, most definately not because of temperment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorbike Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 really, any breed of dog can be dangerous when treated improperly. i agree about the irresponsible owners needing to be held accountable, but i don't see how punishing the whole breed along with the responsible owners would help.it's a tough call, but the bad rap pits are given is really undeserved. pits fall in the same category as guns to me. its bad to say that cuz they are living breathing animals, but at the same time they are very strong animals and can be very dangerous. it sucks to blame the dog for the idiot that raises them to be so pissed all the time, but lets face it, you dont hear about collies goin ape shit and mangling people faces. i think the problem, just like with guns, is that they are not regulated enough. any asshole can get one. just to add to the matter, you cant always blame the owner either. when i was growing up a friend of our family had a pit and it was one of the nicest dogs i had ever been around. the owner took awesome care of it and treated it great. anyway, one day he came over with the dog to our house. no problem so far. we had a sheltie growing up and when the two dogs were together they were fine before this point. in fact the owner told us he had never had a serious problem with other dogs around his dog. to make the long story short, the owner bent down and pet our dog during the visit and his pit went fucking nuts and snapped my dogs neck in about ten seconds. dont take it as im being harsh on the breed either, my best friend has a small pit and its fucking awesome, i just dont trust them knowing they can turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokithelion Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 pit bulls actually tested better in temperment tests than beagles."No more vicious than golden retrievers, beagles or other popular dogs! In a recent study of 122 dog breeds by the American Temperament Testing Society (ATTS), pit bulls achieved a passing rate of 83.9%. That's as good or better than beagles ... 78.2%, and golden retrievers ... 83.2%." source: badrap.org check for yourself: http://www.atts.org/statistics.html actually, pit bulls (american pit bull terrier if you're looking it up) is up to 84.3%, to update the statistic in that quote. the only reason i could think of that would make a pit bull attack 'worse' is because they're a slightly bigger more muscular breed, most definately not because of temperment. Have you ever seen the victim of a pit bull attack or tried to stop one that is attacking someone, or been attacked by one? It's like fighting a fucking land shark. They're all muscle and teeth and their short slick hair makes it hard to get a hold of them. It's even worse because when they get into a frenzy they can't be stopped. A beagle might bit more often but you seldom hear about beagles killing the people they attack. They can be super sweet, but if they're raised wrong they're incredibly dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 pit bulls were originally bred to fight other animals, therefore they have a tendency to be 'dog aggressive', which is a totally separate thing than being aggressive towards people. In fact, pits were specifically bred to have a love and respect for humans, due to the nature of dog fighting when it was considered a sport hundreds of years ago. and in case you missed the link that i posted earlier about all breeds biting, here it is again: http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Articles/OtherBreedBites/AllDogsBite.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviolentworld Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 pit bulls actually tested better in temperment tests than beagles."No more vicious than golden retrievers, beagles or other popular dogs! In a recent study of 122 dog breeds by the American Temperament Testing Society (ATTS), pit bulls achieved a passing rate of 83.9%. That's as good or better than beagles ... 78.2%, and golden retrievers ... 83.2%." source: badrap.org check for yourself: http://www.atts.org/statistics.html actually, pit bulls (american pit bull terrier if you're looking it up) is up to 84.3%, to update the statistic in that quote. the only reason i could think of that would make a pit bull attack 'worse' is because they're a slightly bigger more muscular breed, most definately not because of temperment. Have you ever seen the victim of a pit bull attack or tried to stop one that is attacking someone, or been attacked by one? It's like fighting a fucking land shark. They're all muscle and teeth and their short slick hair makes it hard to get a hold of them. It's even worse because when they get into a frenzy they can't be stopped. A beagle might bit more often but you seldom hear about beagles killing the people they attack. They can be super sweet, but if they're raised wrong they're incredibly dangerous. you just said what i was trying to say........only better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 pit bulls actually tested better in temperment tests than beagles."No more vicious than golden retrievers, beagles or other popular dogs! In a recent study of 122 dog breeds by the American Temperament Testing Society (ATTS), pit bulls achieved a passing rate of 83.9%. That's as good or better than beagles ... 78.2%, and golden retrievers ... 83.2%." source: badrap.org check for yourself: http://www.atts.org/statistics.html actually, pit bulls (american pit bull terrier if you're looking it up) is up to 84.3%, to update the statistic in that quote. the only reason i could think of that would make a pit bull attack 'worse' is because they're a slightly bigger more muscular breed, most definately not because of temperment. Have you ever seen the victim of a pit bull attack or tried to stop one that is attacking someone, or been attacked by one? It's like fighting a fucking land shark. They're all muscle and teeth and their short slick hair makes it hard to get a hold of them. It's even worse because when they get into a frenzy they can't be stopped. A beagle might bit more often but you seldom hear about beagles killing the people they attack. They can be super sweet, but if they're raised wrong they're incredibly dangerous. yes, i can imagine that a pit would be hard to stop IF it was an aggressive one treated or trained improperly. however, if a beagle was trained in the same way, i'd imagine that it would be equally as hard to stop. the only reasons pits are trained to fight is because of their build and other physical characteristics. don't get me wrong, i know they can be very dangerous if they're raised to be aggressive, but it's wrong to condemn the whole breed based on people's irresponsible actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorbike Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 look, im not going to argue with you that theres some analyst out there that has proven they bite less and blah, blah. the simple fact is they are a very strong, aggressive dog. when they bite people or anything for that matter they really fuck it up vs. other breeds like beagles who are more violent according to the link. pile that on top of the fact that they were bread to fight (which im sure there are other dogs in the same boat that are less violent). now top that off with the fact that any piece of shit out there can get one and throw a chain around its neck and treat it like crap and then let it loose in the neighborhood full of kids and other peoples pets and you got a serious risk on your hands. sorry but that dog becomes a problem then even if it is the owners fault. like i said, they should be regulated like a gun, you should have to be licensed to have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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