lonesomexloveus Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31664450/ns/health-more_health_news/ Government experts say prescription drugs like Vicodin and Percocet that combine a popular painkiller with stronger narcotics should be eliminated because of their role in deadly overdoses. A Food and Drug Administration panel on Tuesday voted 20-17 that prescription drugs that combine acetaminophen with other painkilling ingredients should be pulled off the market. Another classic example of a few people ruining something for everyone. Why don’t we just get rid of cars and make them illegal, because they’re involved in 100% of traffic related deaths? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentgods Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 because cars don't kill people. people driving cars kill people. but i agree with what you said about the painkillers, all of that shit has the possibility for addiction though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 This is some Republican conspiracy so Rush Limbaugh can be all "See! It wasn't MY fault!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted July 1, 2009 Author Share Posted July 1, 2009 yeah BUT, using that logic...vicodin and percocet don't kill people, taking them in the wrong doses or inappropriately in conjunction with other medications kill people. ;] yeah, it has the possibility for addiction, but there are so many people who legitimately are in pain and need them to function. monitor them more closely? probably. ban them completely? that doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentgods Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 when has the goverment ever done anything that made sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted July 1, 2009 Author Share Posted July 1, 2009 when has the goverment ever done anything that made sense? TRUE! hell, i'm now on day one of budget impasse because they can't stop fighting here in PA, so i'm working, but not even getting paid til they figure it out. jerks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 So they're cool with painkillers like OxyContin that are time-release but can be crushed to all the medicine is administered at once. And I guess fentanyl is cool even though the gel can be scraped off the patches for a similar rush (just ask Jay Bennett). This reeks of the American sentiment of "You bitches need to suck it up and get over it." As long as it's not them that's suffering, they don't have any compassion whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Aw man, I forgot Rush got addicted to oxycontin, not vicodin. JOKE RUINED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circlingvultures Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 The tylenol is what is the harmful part of these. People get hooked to the drug and kill themselves with all the tylenol that's in there. Cold pressing works but its a bitch to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 The tylenol is what is the harmful part of these. People get hooked to the drug and kill themselves with all the tylenol that's in there. Cold pressing works but its a bitch to do. Oh I see. Yeah, continual use of tylenol can definitely fuck up the liver. Still, most of those people have chronic, but relatively minor pain. You don't want to start giving those folks dilaudid or morphine or serious shit like that if they're already prone to addiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circlingvultures Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I don't take pills often. Very rarely nowadays. But in order to feel anything the amount of tylenol in my system would be alarming so I just steer clear. From a recreational standpoint of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaime Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 so what will they be using in place of these? i know those are the two main forms of medication when getting your wisdom teeth out, atleast thats what my siblings and friends have gotten. i havent gotten mine out yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xadamhudsonx Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 so this means i should sell my vicodin i was prescribed since i never took it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted July 1, 2009 Author Share Posted July 1, 2009 so this means i should sell my vicodin i was prescribed since i never took it? street value of vicodin just sky rocketed. yer sittin' on a veritable gold mine! lulz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 On the Tylenol topic, I recently read that acetaminophen is a lot worse for your body then they initially knew. It has always been know that it harms your liver, but apparently it does it at a much faster rate then they thought. Taking it with caffeine, like in migraine medicine makes it harder for your liver to cycle out the by products that can cause it damage which then causes more damage. To totally pull this products without making a "safer" solution for people with chronic pain, or someone who just had a painful surgery is just dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circlingvultures Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Pills are always worth money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamlikesmusic Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 so this means i should sell my vicodin i was prescribed since i never took it? Hah, seriously. I got my wisdom teeth out, got prescribed 200 pills, took 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 so this means i should sell my vicodin i was prescribed since i never took it? Hah, seriously. I got my wisdom teeth out, got prescribed 200 pills, took 1. Probably means you could have been given codeine without a big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted July 1, 2009 Author Share Posted July 1, 2009 when i got mine out i think they just gave me some high dosage ibuprofen; nothing this strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamlikesmusic Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Hah, seriously. I got my wisdom teeth out, got prescribed 200 pills, took 1. Probably means you could have been given codeine without a big difference. I got codeine for my foot surgery last year. Didn't really use that, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 when i got mine out i think they just gave me some high dosage ibuprofen; nothing this strong. Because I would imagine no one needs Vicodin or Percocet when you have your wisdom teeth pulled. Its just easier to give out the strongest thing you can so you don't get pain complaints than to actually prescribe what's actually needed. Its the same reason antibiotics are losing their potency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted July 1, 2009 Author Share Posted July 1, 2009 when i got mine out i think they just gave me some high dosage ibuprofen; nothing this strong. Because I would imagine no one needs Vicodin or Percocet when you have your wisdom teeth pulled. Its just easier to give out the strongest thing you can so you don't get pain complaints than to actually prescribe what's actually needed. Its the same reason antibiotics are losing their potency. agreed. i work with a lady whom, everytime she has the slightest cough, cold or other minor ailment, goes to the doctor. if they tell her it's just a cold and do the rest, drink fluids, etc thing, she will call back the next day and demand an antibiotic because she's not better yet. the fact that doctors give in to demands like this even though there is no medical reasoning behind it is what's causing the problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgoodcore Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Because I would imagine no one needs Vicodin or Percocet when you have your wisdom teeth pulled. Its just easier to give out the strongest thing you can so you don't get pain complaints than to actually prescribe what's actually needed. Its the same reason antibiotics are losing their potency. agreed. i work with a lady whom, everytime she has the slightest cough, cold or other minor ailment, goes to the doctor. if they tell her it's just a cold and do the rest, drink fluids, etc thing, she will call back the next day and demand an antibiotic because she's not better yet. the fact that doctors give in to demands like this even though there is no medical reasoning behind it is what's causing the problems. Doctor's are at fault but so are people and regulators who allow drug companies to advertise asking your doctor for meds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesomexloveus Posted July 1, 2009 Author Share Posted July 1, 2009 agreed. i work with a lady whom, everytime she has the slightest cough, cold or other minor ailment, goes to the doctor. if they tell her it's just a cold and do the rest, drink fluids, etc thing, she will call back the next day and demand an antibiotic because she's not better yet. the fact that doctors give in to demands like this even though there is no medical reasoning behind it is what's causing the problems. Doctor's are at fault but so are people and regulators who allow drug companies to advertise asking your doctor for meds. i agree. however, i think it's ultimately the doctor's responsbility to say 'look, you don't need this for this and this reason'. for the most part, they're just taking the easy way out. the marketing ploys use by the drug companies admittedly do make their jobs harder, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychoriley Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Well, ANYTHING taken not as prescribed is of coarse bad for anyone. Weather these cases are from abusing them or using accordingly makes a big difference. Don't know the details, but I will tell you, I AM GETTING REAL TIRED OF OUR GOVERNMENT TELLING US, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHAT WE CAN AND CAN NOT DO FOR OUR OWN SAFETY!!! Our own safety!! We the people are allowing little laws here and there slip by and chalking it up to "it's not a big deal" or "it doesn't really effect me"....before we know it we will be so controlled on what we can and cannot do, and our freedom will be lost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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