inutil Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 This may sound stupid to some of you, but i don't know why this is better. So i just wanted some info... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hickey Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 It's thicker and sounds better...exactly why that is, I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melikecheese Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 thicker vinyl dampens vibrations more then thin vinyl. Therefor creating a better, cleaner sound as the stylus won't be picking up as many outside vibrations off the record. The thicker the vinyl the better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minty Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 New "virgin" or "heavy" (180–220 g/m2) vinyl is commonly used for modern "audiophile" vinyl releases in all genres. Many collectors prefer to have 180 g/m2 vinyl albums, and they have been reported to have a better sound than normal vinyl. These albums tend to withstand the deformation caused by normal play better than regular vinyl[citation needed]. 180 g/m2 vinyl is more expensive to produce and requires higher-quality manufacturing processes than regular vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inutil Posted March 31, 2008 Author Share Posted March 31, 2008 Thank you guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melikecheese Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 New "virgin" or "heavy" (180–220 g/m2) vinyl is commonly used for modern "audiophile" vinyl releases in all genres. Many collectors prefer to have 180 g/m2 vinyl albums, and they have been reported to have a better sound than normal vinyl. These albums tend to withstand the deformation caused by normal play better than regular vinyl[citation needed]. 180 g/m2 vinyl is more expensive to produce and requires higher-quality manufacturing processes than regular vinyl. Virgin vinyl does not always mean its 180 gram. Virgin vinyl is just vinyl that is brand new, it contains no cuttings from previously pressed records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbypuckett Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 New "virgin" or "heavy" (180–220 g/m2) vinyl is commonly used for modern "audiophile" vinyl releases in all genres. Many collectors prefer to have 180 g/m2 vinyl albums, and they have been reported to have a better sound than normal vinyl. These albums tend to withstand the deformation caused by normal play better than regular vinyl[citation needed]. 180 g/m2 vinyl is more expensive to produce and requires higher-quality manufacturing processes than regular vinyl. Virgin vinyl does not always mean its 180 gram. Virgin vinyl is just vinyl that is brand new, it contains no cuttings from previously pressed records. From what I gather, he's correct. It was pointed out in that article that someone posted here last week from that plant in Europe or something. Wow, I can't remember anything right now... It's monday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vito Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 180g isn't always better though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretAgentP Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 I read somewhere that the deeper the grooves in the vinyl, the better it sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadmonkey Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 180g isn't always better though. Yeah like if the album already sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celebdeath Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 180g isn't always better though. Yeah like if the album already sucks LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minty Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 Virgin vinyl does not always mean its 180 gram. Virgin vinyl is just vinyl that is brand new, it contains no cuttings from previously pressed records. From what I gather, he's correct. It was pointed out in that article that someone posted here last week from that plant in Europe or something. Wow, I can't remember anything right now... It's monday... Sorry, I was just posting a bit about 180g from Wikipedia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truetilldeath303 Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 180g isn't always better though. I have never heard this argument before. The thicker the vinyl, the deeper they can cut the grooves, the better the sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billynomates Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 The wider the groove the better, at least for bass sounds, that's why 45rpm 12"s sound deeper. I guess the new 35 minute REM album that is released on a double 12" 45 will sound pretty dam good. For REM that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowserhound Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 I want to know how many grams a regular rekkid weighs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forgeagain Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 A regular record weighs around 130g. Also, just so you guys know, they use the exact same plates to press 180g records as they do to press 130g records. The vibration argument above is really the only thing that matters. I fail to see how the grooves could be cut "deeper" when the exact same depth plates are used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 140ish usually... like all things in life, thicker is always better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vito Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 180g isn't always better though. I have never heard this argument before. The thicker the vinyl, the deeper they can cut the grooves, the better the sound. ok, well that is true. what i meant to say though is that you can still get shitty sounding records. i'm sure there are many 140g records that sound just as good or better. it also depends on where they're pressed. straight up, i'd always take 180g over anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riddle350 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I have never heard this argument before. The thicker the vinyl, the deeper they can cut the grooves, the better the sound. ok, well that is true. what i meant to say though is that you can still get shitty sounding records. i'm sure there are many 140g records that sound just as good or better. it also depends on where they're pressed. straight up, i'd always take 180g over anything else. I think how the record is produced/mastered matters more than if it's on normal vs 180. My Against Me New Wave sounds only ok while my Kay Kay record sounds amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouncingsoles123 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 140ish usually... like all things in life, thicker is always better! AGREED Oh and I wish they would make the floppy ones still, even though they sound like crap they are fun! 45's do sound better than 33's I have come to discover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skumbucket Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 yeah, i have to give it up for some regular weighted stuff; the new mountain goats sounds flawless, and i don't think that's heavyweight. alternatively, the latest Stars 2xlp IS on 180 gram and it's hands down the best sounding record i've ever heard. huge bass, which is definitely not the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riddle350 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 yeah, i have to give it up for some regular weighted stuff; the new mountain goats sounds flawless, and i don't think that's heavyweight.alternatively, the latest Stars 2xlp IS on 180 gram and it's hands down the best sounding record i've ever heard. huge bass, which is definitely not the norm. I really need to get that Stars record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skumbucket Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 you really do. it sounds incredible. every time i have it on all i can do is sit in the middle of the room and stare into space, lamenting that nothing else could ever sound as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbet Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I wish VC would release more 180g records. It's well worth the premium price tag. I just got my Kay Kay in the mail and I wish it was 180g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forgeagain Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 It's like $1 more to press on 180g vinyl, but you can charge like $5 more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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