This question came up at work today

[danthemjfan23]

no, but i'm guessing you want to know because you're curious how often i listen to alkaline trio. and to answer that question, you'd be surprised at how infrequently i do. they're one of my top 10 most-played artists, for sure. probably top 5. but i listen to lots of different things.

[burdenx]

Fuck you, Bob Costas. lol

you know, normally i don't like you that much, but this made me fucking laugh.

[jhamm212]

You also have to think of the opportunity cost of all the good music you'd miss out on that year.

[steventangent]

Music is part of the spice of life for me. I don't know, I guess it'd be a lot; it's like saying for a year you'd have to eat bologna and american cheese on whitebread for each meal. I'd lose hope pretty quickly.

So it'd have to be some serious fuck you money.

[silentgods]

is it extended to songs featuring T-pain?

[desensitizedbyu]

no, but i'm guessing you want to know because you're curious how often i listen to alkaline trio. and to answer that question, you'd be surprised at how infrequently i do. they're one of my top 10 most-played artists, for sure. probably top 5. but i listen to lots of different things.

No, just wanted to be friends

[scottheisel]

is it extended to songs featuring T-pain?

Same question I had. Also, is it limited to his recorded output at the start of the year, or are you allowed to incorporate new material from/featuring T-Pain as the year goes on?

[mcm1610]

You guys are all ridiculous. It is SO easy to tune out sound you don't like. No one is forcing you to actively pay attention to it. And there's certainly worse things out there than T-Pain.

And you really shouldn't pay off a house in full anyway, unless you're getting a huge break by doing so. You can smartly invest the money you'd be paying and make more than your mortgage interest rate, just be sure to have the money ready to pay each month.

Someone said $500,000 isn't life-changing money? My mom raised 3 kids alone on less than 50K a year. That's 10 years of working for her. You're going to say that's not life-changing with a straight face? Especially since just about everyone here is young, so if you're not an NBA player or MC Hammer, you can turn that money into a RIDICULOUS retirement fund. What's that investment rule, with 7% interest (real) it takes about 10 years to double, DOUBLE, and you have 3 or 4 decades before you retire for it to double.

You guys really are ridiculous. I fully grasp this is a dumb hypothetical, but most of you are out of your mind or already millionaires if you can't take that.

Therapy?! You're just dumb.

[sgoodcore]

And you really shouldn't pay off a house in full anyway, unless you're getting a huge break by doing so. You can smartly invest the money you'd be paying and make more than your mortgage interest rate, just be sure to have the money ready to pay each month.

I'm not sure of anywhere outside of being damn near perfect at the stock market where anyone can make 4% or more on investments right now.

[mcm1610]

You don't go in and try to be anything "at the stock market". You put money in funds and let it expand over time. Over the last 75 years or whatever, nothing has had better returns than the S&P500. Outside of short term drops, it is always rising.

Unless you actually believe the market is going to die, now is a great time to hop in because it's down from what it "should" be.

http://www.google.com/finance?q=INDEXSP%3A.INX <-- the graph at the bottom of the big graph shows it well enough how it's been increasing. Max the time frame out if it isn't already.

[sgoodcore]

You don't go in and try to be anything "at the stock market". You put money in funds and let it expand over time. Over the last 75 years or whatever, nothing has had better returns than the S&P500. Outside of short term drops, it is always rising.

Unless you actually believe the market is going to die, now is a great time to hop in because it's down from what it "should" be.

http://www.google.com/finance?q=INDEXSP%3A.INX <-- the graph at the bottom of the big graph shows it well enough how it's been increasing. Max the time frame out if it isn't already.

Don't want highjack this highly important question posed here but I honestly do not believe the "benefits" of paying an interest rate on your mortgage outweigh the benefits of not. All the interest is thrown away. Even if you're in the highest tax bracket more than half of the money is just gone. If you invest the half that's just thrown in to the fire you'll do better than using the money from the interest on your house as a tax write-off.

[mcm1610]

Over the span of a 30 year mortgage it is hugely beneficial to start investing with twice the principle and deplete it slowly than to start with the money you'd have left after paying off your house.

But whatever. I'm still disgusted by either everyone's musical snobbiness (you'll need therapy from listening to T-Pain?) or their disregard for the value of money.

[fourfourtwo]

What if you accepted the offer, and then stopped listening to music all together?

I could maybe play a track from T-Pain once a week if that were the circumstance, and then you wouldn't be breaking any rules, really, because you'd still be listening to him exclusively.

[sgoodcore]

But whatever. I'm still disgusted by either everyone's musical snobbiness (you'll need therapy from listening to T-Pain?) or their disregard for the value of money.

You think its snobby to say you could not listen to one artist for 10 hours a day for an entire year? Maybe its a sign people have better taste than to do whatever for money. Frankly, a year of my life is worth a whole lot. Especially if that year is going to be plagued with horrendous music I don't like as its soundtrack.

Over the span of a 30 year mortgage it is hugely beneficial to start investing with twice the principle and deplete it slowly than to start with the money you'd have left after paying off your house.

In terms of what you gross I agree but I'm not sure its nets out in your favor.

[mcm1610]

We can calculate exactly how much your year is worth, actually, but it's a long tiring process. I'm willing to bet the impact of listening to music of your choice doesn't raise or lower your year's worth that much, and I would bet every cent I'll earn for the rest of my life it doesn't change your year's worth by more than half a million dollars. I'd probably make that bet changing the number to just $100,000.

[mcm1610]

In terms of what you gross I agree but I'm not sure its nets out in your favor.

Maybe I'll change my stance to the fact that it's not always a good idea to pay off a house outright. There's probably terms and amounts that don't let it work, but a significant amount will.

[scottheisel]

This whole argument kinda reminded me of this:

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/07/jim_nostradamus_bartek_of_mapl.html

[sgoodcore]

We can calculate exactly how much your year is worth, actually, but it's a long tiring process. I'm willing to bet the impact of listening to music of your choice doesn't raise or lower your year's worth that much, and I would bet every cent I'll earn for the rest of my life it doesn't change your year's worth by more than half a million dollars. I'd probably make that bet changing the number to just $100,000.

Personally, an enjoyable year of my life is priceless. And music makes it even better. I'm not missing shows and listening to something I loathe for that long. But more importantly missing out on stuff whereby listening makes things much, much better.

Bidding for my year would start at a cool $5 million.

[mcm1610]

The thing about economics is that they can actually give anything a price. Hell, the government makes decisions based on the average person's life, and it is significantly less than a million dollars. (not saying you value your entire life for that little).

The thing is though, by your revealed preferences - your salary/wage and how much time you spend working, what you do when you have free time and how much that costs, what you're willing to take off of work for, how much time you sleep, and on and on and on. You indirectly place an exact monetary figure on your year's worth of activity, and it certainly will not add up to $5 million.

Your $5 million is your stated preference, but stated and revealed preferences are rarely the same.

[thesupervillain]

How much material does T-Pain have, really? My problem wouldn't be the (clearly) low quality of the music, but that I would be listening to the same low quality music over and over and over.

If I was allowed to substitute an artist I think is equally as bad but has a much higher output of material, Lil' Wayne for instance, I could do it fairly easily. But I would still ask for at least $200,000.

[thedavidescapeplan]

I would definitely do this. If it would pay off my student loans it would be worth it.

The only issue I see arising is that if you have to listen to one artist for a year what happens if you go out to dinner and they aren't playing T-Pain? Would you have to ask them to put it on? And if you're a musician can you not play music unless it's T-Pain?

[bruins4ever]

I'd do it for my school and living expenses paid off for the 4 years I've been in school without a doubt. Again, are we talking new output as well, or just the catalog he has now?

[scottheisel]

Hell, even if it were limited to what were out right this very second, you'd have the following:

-All three of his currently released full lengths (61 tracks including bonus tracks)

-the new single from his next record (and you gotta figure once that new record drops, it's easily another 15-20 tracks)

Plus the following guest appearances/unofficial releases/freestyles/etc. (all taken from Wikipedia):

"I'm So Hood" (DJ Khaled feat. T-Pain, Trick Daddy, Rick Ross & Plies)

"U and Dat" (E-40 feat. T-Pain & Kandi Girl)

"On Bail" (Xzibit feat. The Game, Daz, & T-Pain)

"Know What I'm Doin'" (Birdman & Lil Wayne feat. T-Pain & Rick Ross)

"Send Me an E-Mail" (J-Shin feat. T-Pain)

"I Can't Wait" (Akon feat. T-Pain)

"Outta My System" (Bow Wow feat. T-Pain)

"Ball Out ($500)" (BlakJak feat. T-Pain)

"Cutty Buddy" (Trillville feat. T-Pain)

"Dance 4 Me" (T-Pain remix) (Mark Morrison feat. T-Pain)

"I'm a Flirt" (remix) (R. Kelly feat. T-Pain & T.I.)

"Flip the Game on Them" (Luv feat. T-Pain) (produced by T-Pain)

"Shawty" (Plies feat. T-Pain)

"Studio 54" (J-Bo feat. T-Pain)

"U Ain't Know" (Sean P feat. T-Pain) (produced by T-Pain)

"Cyclone" (Baby Bash feat. T-Pain)

"2 Step (remix)" (Unk feat. T-Pain, Jim Jones & E-40)

"Same Girl (Triple Up Remix)" (R. Kelly feat. Usher & T-Pain)

"Pop, Lock and Drop It (remix)" (Huey feat. Bow Wow & T-Pain)

"Glad 2 Be Alive" (Huey feat. T-Pain) (produced by T-Pain)

"Who Is That" (Loon feat. T-Pain)

"She Got It" (2 Pistols feat. T-Pain & Tay Dizm)

"My Girl Gotta Girlfriend (remix)" (Ray Lavender feat. T-Pain & Dizasta)

"Ask for It" (Nivea feat. T-Pain)

"Good Life" (Kanye West feat. T-Pain)

"Riden Out" (Tampa Tony feat. T-Pain)

"What It's Like" (C.C. feat. T-Pain, Mack 10 & Shreddah) (produced by Shredda)

"Go Home With You" (Kardinal Offishall feat. T-Pain)

"Died in Your Arms Tonight (remix)" (Smitty feat. T-Pain)

"We Takin' Over" (Official Remix)" (DJ Khaled feat. Akon, T-Pain, R. Kelly, Lil' Kim & Young Jeezy)

"Everything" (Juvenile feat. T-Pain)

"Low" (Flo Rida feat. T-Pain) (produced by T-Pain)

"Who the Fuck Is That?" (Dolla feat. T-Pain & Tay Dizm)

"Greatness" (Chris Brown feat. T-Pain) (produced by T-Pain)

"Kiss Kiss" (Chris Brown feat. T-Pain) (produced by T-Pain)

"Creep Fast" (Twista feat. T-Pain)

"Hot As Ice" (Britney Spears feat. T-Pain (background vocals)

"Table Dance" (Boyz n da Hood feat. T-Pain)

"Come Cum" (Dem Franchize Boyz feat. T-Pain)

"The Let Out" (Cupid feat. Tay Dizm & T-Pain)

"Bounce" (Foxx feat. T-Pain) (produced by T-Pain)

"Lunch Box" (Yola Da Great feat. T-Pain) (produced by T-Pain)

"Come & Get Us" (Brisco feat. T-Pain) (produced by T-Pain)

"Untouchable" (Snook feat. T-Pain) (produced by T-Pain)

"Play Play" (Suave Smooth feat. T-Pain)

"Feelin' It (Remix)" (Sammie feat. Lloyd & T-Pain)

"Nappy Life" (Tay Dizm feat. T-Pain)

"I'm So Hood" (Trick Daddy feat. T-Pain & Tay Dizm)

"Freaky Song" (Notty Black feat. T-Pain)

"Supa Sexy" (Charlie Wilson feat. T-Pain) (produced by T-Pain)

"I'm Sorry" (Jay Lyriq feat. T-Pain) (produced by T-Pain)

"Can't Deal" (Jay Lyriq feat. T-Pain) (produced by T-Pain)

"So Fresh" (Young Wine feat. T-Pain)

"Shawty Get Loose" (Lil Mama feat. T-Pain & Chris Brown) (produced by T-Pain)

"Drop It Down Low" (A.K. feat. T-Pain)

"Fly Away" (City Boy feat. T-Pain)

"Tell Me This" (Huey feat. T-Pain, Tay Dizm & Memphitz)

"The Boss" (Rick Ross feat. T-Pain)

"Migrate" (Mariah Carey feat. T-Pain)

"Cash Flow" (Ace Hood feat. Rick Ross & T-Pain)

"Moon of Dreams" (Ruslana feat. T-Pain)

"Yo Chevy (Remix)" (Thrill Da Playa feat. T-Pain & Doe Boy)

"Happy Now" (Tay Dizm feat. T-Pain)

"Feel Good" (Tay Dizm feat. T-Pain)

"We Got That Gas" (Tay Dizm feat. T-Pain)

"Real Ass Nigga" (Tay Dizm feat. T-Pain)

"Bonus So Hood Remix" (Tay Dizm feat. T-Pain & Trick Daddy)

"Pop My Colla" (Tay Dizm feat. T-Pain)

"Give It to Ya" (Phar-City feat. T-Pain)

"Ain't Nothin In My Way" (Blood Raw feat. T-Pain)

"I Bet" (Flo Rida feat. T-Pain)

"Freaky Shit" (Birmingham J feat. T-Pain)

"What It Is (Strike A Pose)" (Lil Mama feat. T-Pain)

"Beam Me Up" (Tay Dizm feat. T-Pain & Rick Ross) (Prod. By Bangladesh)

"44" (Yukmouth feat. T-Pain)

"Set You Off" (J-Will feat. T-Pain & Blood Raw)

"Cuddy Buddy" (Mike Jones feat. Lil Wayne, Twista & T-Pain)

"Superbad" (Sophia Fresh feat. T-Pain & Cee-Lo Green)

"Freakin'" (Tay Dizm feat. Gorilla Zoe & T-Pain)

"Stop Playin'" (Usher feat. R. Lovette, VC & T-Pain)

"Natural High" (Colby O'Donis feat. T-Pain)

"Go Girl" (Ciara feat. T-Pain) (Produced by T-Pain)

"I'm Different" (Young Ca$h feat. T-Pain)

"Make Movies" (Young Ca$h feat. Sophia Fresh & T-Pain)

"Feel It" (DJ Felli Fel feat. Pitbull, Sean Paul, Flo Rida & T-Pain)

"Blown" (Busta Rhymes feat. T-Pain & Dj Khaled)

"Talk That Shit" (Timbaland feat. Missy Elliott & T-Pain)

"Go Hard (DJ Khaled feat. Kanye West & T-Pain)

"She Fine" (Chrome feat. T-Pain) (Produced by DJ Paul & Juicy J)

"Sun Come Up" (Glasses Malone) Feat. T-Pain, Birdman, & Rick Ross

"Pop My Collar" (Ray L feat. T-Pain)

"Say" (Timbaland feat. T-Pain)

"What's Wrong (Go Away)" (Jennifer Hudson feat. T-Pain)

"One More Drink" (Ludacris feat T-Pain)

"Ride (Remix)" (Ace Hood feat. T-Pain, Rick Ross & Juelz Santana)

"Feel It" (DJ Felli Fel feat. T-Pain, Sean Paul, Pitbull & Flo-Rida)

"Holla Holla" (Akon feat. T-Pain)

"She's My" (Bow Wow feat. T-Pain)

"Give Her the Keys" (E-40 feat. T-Pain)

"Club Hop" (Raheem DeVaughn feat. T-Pain)

"Take You Down" (Lil Boosie feat. T-Pain & Ace Hood)

"Download" (Lil Kim feat. T-Pain & Charlie Wilson)

"Morena 08" (DJ Laz ft. T-Pain)

"Arab Money (Remix, Part 1) (Busta Rhymes Feat. Ron Browz, Diddy, Swizz Beatz, T-Pain, Akon, & Lil' Wayne)

"Dirty Girl" (Bow Wow feat. T-Pain)

"My Own Steps" (Polow da Don feat. T-Pain)

"Everybody Else" (Twank Star & T-Pain)

"Blame It (On The Alcohol)"(Jamie Foxx feat. T-Pain)

"Missin' You" (Khrys Lawson feat. T-Pain)

"Hustler's Anthem '09" (Busta Rhymes feat. T-Pain)

"All The Above" (Maino feat. T-Pain)

"I'm on a Boat" (The Lonely Island feat. T-Pain)

"Ride That Scooter" (Scooter Smiff feat. T-Pain)

"Hey Girl" (Keri Hilson feat. T-Pain & Lil Jon)

"Turnin' Me On (Official Remix)" (Keri Hilson feat. T-Pain & Lil Wayne)

"Fire" (Missy Elliott feat. T-Pain)

"Shawty Wats Up" (Day 26 feat. T-Pain)

"Maybach Music II" (Rick Ro$$ feat. T-Pain, Kanye West & Lil' Wayne)

"Overtime" (Ace Hood feat. Akon & T-Pain)

"We Can Get It On" (Ciara feat. T-Pain)

"Scandalous Hoes II" (Mike Jones feat. T-Pain)

"Swoll" (B.X. feat. T-Pain)

"Flight School" (GLC feat. T-Pain & Kanye West)

"Body Language (Official Remix)" (Jesse McCartney feat. T-Pain)

"16" (B.o.B. feat. T-Pain)

"Cocaine Cowboys" (Gucci Mane feat. T-Pain (produced by Lex Lucazi)

"Two & Two" (Tay Dizm feat. T-Pain & Joe Clark)

"Jukin' & Vibin'" (Tay Dizm feat. T-Pain & Young Cash)

"Ringtone" (R. Kelly feat. T-Pain & Jack Splash)

"2Nite" (M.Beezy feat. T-Pain & Ole-EM)

"Thug Story" (Taylor Swift feat. T-Pain)

"Maniac" (Young Cash feat. T-Pain)

"Get Lower" (Young Cash feat. T-Pain & Tay Dizm)

"Money Round Here" (C-Ride feat. T-Pain)

"Keep On Drinkin'" (Joe Scudda feat. T-Pain)

"Shawty Got" (Art of Raw feat. T-Pain)

"Hard For The Money" (Te Money feat. T-Pain)

"I Gotta Tella" (Jus Bleezy feat. T-Pain)

"I Support Single Mothers" (Young Cash feat. T-Pain)

"Look The Other Way" (Tight feat. T-Pain)

"My Girl Gangsta" (N.O.R.E. feat. T-Pain)

"Put Ya in Da Game" (Fat Joe feat. T-Pain & Oz)

"Number One" (Official Remix) (R. Kelly feat. T-Pain & Keyshia Cole)

"She Wolf (Remix)" (Shakira feat. T-Pain)

"I Remember (Candy Bling)" (Mariah Carey feat. T-Pain)

"Imaginate" (Wisin y Yandel feat. T-Pain)

"Kid N Play" (Sophia Fresh feat. T-Pain)

"Go Green" (Sophia Fresh feat. T-Pain)

"Super Bad" (Sophia Fresh feat. T-Pain)

"Top of the World" (Mams Taylor feat. T-Pain, Ya Boy, Yung Joc)

"Missin' You (Cheif Stockton feat. T-Pain)

"Shinin" (Birdman feat. T-Pain)

"Nothing Like" (Monica feat. T-Pain)

"Notify Your Girl" (Diddy feat. T-Pain)

"Marching Band" (Tay Dizm feat. T-Pain & Da Brat)

"On My Grind" (Ace Hood feat. T-Pain)

"All I Do Is Win" DJ Khaled feat. T-Pain, Ludacris, Rick Ross, & Snoop Dogg)

"Everybody knows (Cheers Theme)" Young Cash feat. T-Pain & Iceburg

"I Met A Hoe" Mike Jones feat. T-Pain & Twista

"Trunk Band" B.o.B feat. T-Pain

"Fly Shit" Young Ca$h feat. T-Pain

"Loose Cannon" Tay Dizm feat. T-Pain

"Flex (Remix)" Party Boyz feat. T-Pain and Waka Flocka Flame

"Zoosk Girl" Flo Rida feat. T-Pain

"Tattoo Girl (Foreva)" Detail feat. T-Wayne & Travis McCoy

"Gots" Flo Rida feat. T-Pain

"Late Nite Sex" Do or Die feat. Twista & T-Pain

"Sweetest" Lil Jon feat. T-Pain

"Pepsi Smash Tallahassee Mic Pass" (T-Pain feat. Huey, Yung Joc, B.o.B, Bobby Valentino, Twista, Sammie, DJ Unk, Mike Jones, Kardinal Offishall)

"You And Me (Original "I Can't Wait")" T-Pain

"Froze" (T-Pain)

"Mr. Downtown" (T-Pain feat. Tay Dizm)

"X-pectation" (T-Pain)

"Time to Make Love" (T-Pain feat Sarge)

"Ask For It" (T-Pain feat. Nivea)

"I'm the Boogie Man (Halloween Freestyle)" (T-Pain)

"What's Yo Myspace" (T-Pain feat. C.C., Brandon T. Jackson & Tay Dizm)

"Bein' Alone Ain't Right" (T-Pain)

"Bang Bang" (T-Pain)

"Talla Ho Walk" (T-Pain)

"Silver & Gold" (T-Pain)

"Created A Monster" (T-Pain)

"It's So Easy" (T-Pain feat. Sophia Fresh)

"This Evening" (T-Pain)

"Special Guest" (T-Pain)

"Know Your Name" (T-Pain)

"Chevy Ridin' High" (T-Pain feat. Gorilla Zoe)

"Miami Dolphins Fight Song" (T-Pain)

"Dope"(T-pain ft Shawnna)

"So Much Pain" (T-Pain)

"Dark Krystal" (Robot Chicken Song)

"Pop, Lock & Drop It (Remix)" - Huey Feat. Bow Wow & T-Pain

"2 Step (Remix)" - DJ Unk Feat. T-Pain, Jim Jones, & E-40

"I'm A Flirt (Remix)" - R. Kelly Feat. T.I. & T-Pain

"We Takin Over (Remix) DJ Khaled Feat. Akon, R. Kelly, T-Pain, Lil Kim, & Young Jeezy

"Same Girl (Remix)" - R. Kelly Feat. Usher & T-Pain

"Ride (Remix)" - Ace Hood Feat. T-Pain, Trey Songz, Rick Ross, & Juelz Santana

"Arab Money (Remix)" - Busta Rhymes Feat. Ron Browz, Diddy, Swizz Beatz, T-Pain, Akon, & Lil Wayne

"Turnin' Me On (Remix)" - Keri Hilson Feat. Twista, T.I., Busta Rhymes, T-Pain, & Lil Wayne

"She Wolf (Remix)" - Huey Feat. Shakira & T-Pain

"Number One (Remix)" - R. Kelly Feat. T-Pain & Keyshia Cole

"Flex (Remix)" - The Party Boyz Feat. T-Pain & Waka Flocka Flame

"Freaknik is Back" (T-Pain)

"Save You" (T-Pain feat. One Chance)

"Ghetto Commandments" (T-Pain feat. Snoop Dogg & Mack Maine)

"We The Mob" (T-Pain feat. Young Ca$h)

"Beat Build" (T-Pain ft. Young Ca$h & Rick Ross)

"Drop It"(T-pain)(Sophia Phresh Demo)

"Turn Me Up"(T-pain)(Sophia Phresh Demo)

"Crazy"(T-pain)(Sophia Phresh Demo)

"Im Seeing Brakelights"(T-pain)(Jordin Sparks Demo)

"Fucked Up (Akon Cover)" (T-Pain)

"I Don't Want to Be (T-Pain remake)" (T-Pain)

"Runaway Love (featuring Cassie) (Ludacris Cover)" (T-Pain)

"Im So Hood (Nappy Boy Remix) (Featuring Tay Dizm)

"A Milli (Nappy Boy Remix)" (Lil Wayne Cover)

"She Got Her Own " (Nappy Boy Remix)(Featuring Young Cash & SeanJ)(Jamie Foxx Cover)

"Every Girl (Young Money Cover)

That's 213 songs. TWO HUNDRED THIRTEEN. Throw in the full-lengths, and you're looking at 300+ songs. Pick one a day, listen to the fuck out of it and make money, son!

[scottheisel]

Also, would it be frowned upon if I did a Kickstarter project for this? I'd do it for $10,000, easy.

[jimmythescumbag]

And you really shouldn't pay off a house in full anyway, unless you're getting a huge break by doing so. You can smartly invest the money you'd be paying and make more than your mortgage interest rate, just be sure to have the money ready to pay each month.

I'm not sure of anywhere outside of being damn near perfect at the stock market where anyone can make 4% or more on investments right now.

Flipping Brand New variants? ???