copelandkid

If folks here think you're getting one over on them, you're in for it. Even if the consensus that the item's a fake, it seems. Haha.

oh, yeah, that's true. it's white with really ugly lettering that says A L E X G ~ R A C E like so

Took quick pics of mine, ordered from the Gold Soundz website back in the day. Could be a very convincing fake, I suppose – the j-card in mine is ill-fitting and shows printer streaks. However, since my tape is in the 90s (were only 2 left when i ordered it), I'm assuming GS might've had to hastily print the last few j-cards and cut corners. Pretty sure this posting is legit, though. http://imgur.com/DYOIdfW&reK7fkc

aw nice! i'm doing a release with MMT in the first part of 2016 will bookmark this for listening later.

so sad i missed Anchor & Braille (who just announced a new LP today)!

I find that DTGL is the disappointing evolutionary link between TOCS and LITSOS, both of which I enjoy immensely. TOCS had that raw, direct, and somewhat poppy sound, while LITSOS was more on the innovative, artsy side. DTGL seems to linger between the two and, in my view, has too many filler tracks to really match the brilliance of the records it's sandwiched between.

whatever it is, it's pretty great hope we figure out what it is. tried googling some lyric snippets, but nothing helpful came up.

tfw thx hun but he still downvotes u

twin and ixora are not the same album, hun. ixora has sold 577/1000, which is much more respectable. considering the sold out OG pressing was 3000. ((for the second time in this thread: i'm not sure who'd buy a record like twin unless it was, like, a series of bonus tracks appended to ixora.))

this is spectacular. i can almost hear Charles on this at times. missing S&W very much these days, and this will help fill the void.

care to explain why it's silly? considering you only managed to quote half of my sentence, i get the impression you just don't like my conclusion and didn't bother to read the argument itself.

i wouldn't have picked that up for $10; has always struck me as a gimmick how many of Ixora have sold?

A label is an investor, advancing cash for records and tours, stipulating a set percentage of sales, and ultimately gambling on enough ROI to expand. Plenty of indie bands get a foot in the door thanks to label funding. If bands didn't cause a demand for upfront cash, even small indie labels would be obsolete. Copeland's not "all those other indie bands" that are trying to make it – they've worked hard since the early 2000s to build a brand, and it's not unthinkable that they wish to be paid in line with that. They could sell concert tickets for $12, like all those super rad DIY bands we all love, but they command and deliver upon a higher ticket price. I'm not sure why this is such an affront to anyone here, knowing how much y'all are willing to drop on a Harry Potter soundtrack LP or Deja Entendu or whatever it is. I ultimately sympathize with you, mr. dreamover... would much rather have paid $20 for the record instead; but, when most people are willing and able to pay a bit extra (relative to, say, your boutique label), saying "they don't have to sell it for that much" is really just complaining.

would be rad to be in Copeland. it's just a screen name, though... my label does the vinyl, i'm familiar with the pricing and the process. for your part, you seem to have a tenuous grasp on economics, or, at least, an idealistic and unrealistic view of how Copeland should work economically. you can more or less pinpoint the bare minimum ppu (OG press: 3k copies, three colorways, jackets, inserts, taxed & shrinkwrapped & shipped to Florida. not sure about the repress size.) and wonder why the band isn't willing to sell closer to cost. you're overlooking the larger market dynamics, where consumers are buying single records at 25-35 dollars a pop. it's not just SRC, either. sure, some labels are selling things at 15-20, but these are the exceptions. there's no compelling market reason to sell a limited supply product in high demand at a below-market price. since Copeland are unbacked investors in a niche market, the risk of financial loss on a repress (with many potential customers already content to own the OG press) is heightened. 1k copies (again, not sure how many were pressed) at ~6 bucks a copy and you've still gotta move 20% of your stock to break even. and the goal of any small business is not to break even, but to support its employees (4 official members + touring members + merch/design team) and accrue capital for future business moves. it's quite distinct from running a one-man label supplemental to a full-time job. but, if you want to entertain that comparison, it's standard for a label to make profit off of numerous releases in a year, while bands rarely release more than one album a year. if a label is making $5/sale off of 5 releases, an independent band would need to charge $25/sale above cost to accrue the same profit per unit. i mean, a DIY utopia where bands had no holds to selling their products below market would be rad, and indeed, some labels do just that. more often than not, those folks are supplement their vinyl with merch sales, design work, odd jobs. or, in the case of me and many of my peers, we release music at our own cost, in our free time. so, i can see why y'all aren't thrilled with Copeland's prices, but to make the band out as bandits for being risk-averse, business-savvy, and wishing to be compensated for their reputation of 10+ quality years of work as a band is pretty, well, entitled. responding to demand is how business works, and the flip-side to having all your favorite albums (re-)pressed is that prices might very well start to climb.

i think the disconnect between the band and some of you folks is that the band sees them as separate, independent full length albums and some of you think they should've just made a 2xLP. really, it's like grabbing Eat Sleep Repeat and In Motion – 2 LPs total, but not a 2xLP. you still can't make an honest comparison between a 2xLP ($100) and 2 separate LPs ($30 ea.), even if you (rightly) see the second as an extension/remixed version of the first. i wouldn't buy Twin on vinyl, too weak by itself and all, but the fact that the band intends them to be separate records is indisputable. for Copeland, there's absolutely *no* financial incentive to lower the price of the Ixora repress – though the band may have had enough cash to pay manufacturing costs upfront this time around, they're still without a label and licensing the artwork. some folks would fuss about how much they paid for their OG copies if the repress cost less, anyway.

it's a single LP in a high-quality gatefold jacket. 30 isn't a terrific price, but it's a cut above the quality the SRC single LP reissues, which went for $24.99 or so. it's also a business decision – this isn't a record label that can charge lower prices on each title while making profit off the 10-50 LPs in their discography all at once. a band in the post-label era is wise to build a little more profit margin into its merch sales if they wish to bankroll further records while still earning a living wage. whether any of you choose to buy the record or not, conflating this with the Lovedrug debacle is absurd. though you all may see this pricing as "entitlement," quibbling with a band over 5 or 6 bucks looks just as entitled to them. you say overpriced, and the band likely interprets it as you thinking you should get it for free. and with the prevalence of music piracy, i'm not at all surprised a band would think its fans are unwilling to pay them a fair price. vinyl folks seem so ready nickel and dime their favorite bands, forgetting that the artist-fan relationship isn't strictly a financial one. and when this pressing sells out, you'll certainly be paying more on discogs and ebay. if the band hadn't pressed more, you'd be paying 75-100 for the OG pressing (which, by the way, was originally sold at $30). aaron's not a prick for saying that sort of thing any more than you all are for dissing a guy for trying to make his livelihood.

what about him? (he's not an official member, as you may already know)

a signed one, no less i'm working my way through the stack while i finish this term paper. hoping for a page every two tapes

i just use shelves for now. have a few wall mounts that i'll put up once i've got a place of my own.

one of those bands i never got around to checking out, and the album in question is sick! it's that copeland-esque piano rock that really tore my heart up in high school. really sad my first taste of the band's music is coupled with such a distasteful vinyl-hawking scheme. 100 dollars, indeed.

no, add $4 for the first record and $1 for every one thereafter. also, Tame Impala is sold!

bumping this again – help me out with a sale, friends!

last song was "In Her Arms You Will Never Starve"

i wasn't the biggest fan of We Are the City's sound going in to the show, but i think they turned things up a notch live. there was certainly nothing "terrible" about it. great musicianship, showmanship, and flawless execution.

in addition to selling Ixora LPs (clear) and the States/Lulls in Traffic split 10" (translucent yellow), they're putting on a fantastic show, y'all don't want to miss it.