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copelandkid last won the day on October 11 2017

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  1. copelandkid

    PO: Mewithoutyou [A->B] Life Repress

    i clicked on the listing on thursday (can't recall when) and they were all $24. closed that tab again pretty quickly.
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    The Vinyl Deals Thread (non-Amazon)

    i hope so – the advertised black friday deals seem to have gone live already, though...
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    The Vinyl Deals Thread (non-Amazon)

    this ain't working for me so far. any idea if it's legit? i'm seeing the following message, which makes me think it will eventually come around... Looks like this code isn't ready yet. Please try again later.
  4. copelandkid

    PO Now: Relient K- Relient K

    how long until Relient K sues these guys for the eerily similar name?
  5. copelandkid

    Orchid Tapes Club

    Answering my own question I guess but this info via the FB page for the band FKA Teen Suicide: as far as i know unfortunately no one can reissue three love songs because of sample clearance issues. two labels have tried & had to back out because it would cost an unfathomable amount of money to clear the samples :/ i really wish we could do it
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    Orchid Tapes Club

    feeling a bit cursed to bring this dead thread back 2 life but was there ever any truth to whispers of a "Three Love Songs" reissue? still conspicuously absent on my record shelf
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    PO - Brand New - Science Fiction

    Right back at you; I appreciate the thoughtful response! It's always difficult to keep an art object safe from interpretations that base themselves on the creator's intentions (or unintended consequences of the creator's actions). It's just as difficult to safeguard any single interpretation from the plausibility or desirability of others. For instance, reinterpreting a song that was always assumed to be about, as you succinctly put it, "a sexually experienced woman pushing a man into a sexual scenario" in a way that suits the current picture of Lacey requires very little imagination, only the suggestion that Jesse swapped gender roles in the lyrics in a moment of artistic license (or, more cynically, for the sake of plausible deniability), to reinterpret it as autobiographical, about his coercion of a younger woman. My point here is not to push back on the conventional interpretation, but to suggest that the canonical take on any single Brand New's song is jeopardized, and with reasons that go beyond the recent scandal. Reasons that have to do with the claim such "emo" bands have to be writing about lived, or at least plausible and relatable, experience.
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    PO - Brand New - Science Fiction

    when have Brand New or 2000s emo bands in general ever given us reason to make the distinction between art and artist? pretty much everything these guys and their scene peers have written about is focused on themselves, the sorts of experiences they have had, the struggles and conflicts and desires and dreams they've always had (some were more literary about it than others, perhaps). that's exactly why these sorts of bands became the voice of a generation (to the subculture, at least). they helped people to understand themselves, to see others who shared their hurt or their failures. the focus of these bands on lived experiences allowed fans to see their own stories and journeys given voice and dignified. one of the reasons their frontmen were idolized was because their "honest" – i.e. personal, narrative – approach to songwriting made them sympathetic, brave. the kind of person you'd want to meet, someone you hoped would take interest in your story because you knew with certainty from their songwriting that they would relate to it on one level or another. in retrospect, this was a very risky move for these bands. because, if real-life details behind the literary, fictionalized versions of these songwriters' lives were ever to be exposed as shameful, or even criminal as they have been here, the texts we took for granted as anthems for our own self-betterment and recovery take on a more damning character. we return to the singer/frontman figure, no longer seeing them as leaders but as frauds. mind you, this doesn't obligate you, the listener, to draw a 1:1 parallel between allegations and specific lyrics. there are still plausible, perhaps even band-certified interpretations of these songs that don't require a connection to the horrors we've been watching unfold, to the crumbling of Jesse's credibility, etcetera. but the plausibility, the possibility even, of separating art from artist here is extremely compromised by a first-hand testimony of lyrics that were always predicated upon their plausibility and relatability. double-edged sword and all.
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    PO - Brand New - Science Fiction

    they actually hate all bands and all music and puppies and kittens too.
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    PO now: Baths - Romaplasm

    136 Anticon exclusive copies left (out of 800), for anyone keeping track. or for anyone waiting to pick one up (had a slight delay which kept them from arriving for pre-order customers by the release date, but they're apparently shipping out in the next day or so from the label). this album rules. only one listen in, mind you. but i'm enthralled.
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    PO - Brand New - Science Fiction

    wait hold up, i think u r missing a word. what exactly am i supposed to tell my friends about that is better than Deja?
  12. copelandkid

    PO - Brand New - Science Fiction

    on the contrary, it's gonna go to 100 pages + beyond!
  13. copelandkid

    PO - Brand New - Science Fiction

    fuckin whataboutism, how does it work?
  14. copelandkid

    PO - Brand New - Science Fiction

    there are a lot of things one could potentially speak to in your post – such as the hyperbolic use of "death sentence," stunning ignorance as to why preying on young teen girls is morally wrong even if they can operate a car, lack of familiarity with dynamics of interpersonal abuse and why the abused stay with their abusers. but i think the thing you ultimately get wrong is that this mass takedown of criminal celebrities is somehow misguided, that things should just continue they way they always were. even advancing that idea rhetorically is really disappointing, honestly. it wasn't so much a matter of "tolerating" but of covering up and threatening, of whitewashing and apology tourism, and continuing the cycle of abuse. the fact that both the legal age of consent and the exploitation and abuse of (predominantly) women has been largely ignored over the past few decades is disgusting. glad more people are finally doing something about it.
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    PO - Brand New - Science Fiction

    oh good, so the victims should suffer the agony and lose their chance at a normal life for 15 years, but god forbid Jesse Lacey faces intense scrutiny and loses FANS for a few days. pedophiles should face criminal prosecution, and when they don't, or when we suspect they won't, we are under no obligation to let them crawl around "rehabilitating" their image. pedophiliac behavior is insidious and destructive, and those who partake in it ABSOLUTELY deserve severe repercussions. they do not deserve a pat on the back and a second chance. i absolutely love how you suggest those who, and i quote, commit a "heinous crime" should not face the harshest punishment of all. and finally, i keep seeing this asinine idea thrown around, that people criticizing Lacey are either puritanical or hypocritical. "glass house," my ass. only way this take works is if you're minimizing the horror of pedophiliac behavior by comparing it with everyday shortcomings or are insinuating this board and other spaces expressing outrage are infiltrated by pedophiles – both of which are laughable and indefensible.
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