shat

even worse. you apparently know how to write properly but choose not to. practice how you would play the game.

if you're an aspiring journalist i suggest you brush up on your grammar and writing skills

this goes to show that the people who run RSD don't give a shit. stores are not supposed to take pre-orders for RSD releases yet strictly discs does it every year, people report them for it, the RSD people say they will do something about it, but the next year strictly discs is still on the officail store list and is able to get releases. it's also possible that the guy who owns strictly discs is on the RSD commitee or was one of the founders, which is why that store can do whatever the fuck they want with zero repercussions. not that the RSD people would do anything about it anyhow. i may have strictly discs confused with another store though.

wouldnt this be a second pressing then? unless you had the extra copies to round up to an even 1,000 total already pressed and laying around, purposely holding them back for whatever reason.

at that point it's just a straight up business venture and money making scheme. or people who want to be cool by having a label, like that guy from ap.net who started american dream records and has made a complete mockery of everything thus far. obviously every label is a business venture and needs to make money, but ones that do things in the traditional sense you speak of should be looked at differently. a lot of labels start out as an idea to press albums you love on vinyl, but lately not many have stayed that way as they branch out into working with new bands and releasing their material. which deserves applause. i get that some people need to build up enough money so they can use it to start putting out new releases from new artists. and they get that money from licensing out albums that will quickly sell. but far too many people start these labels and just keep licensing out album after album after album only to reap the profits. they don;t use the money for some greater good like putting out a record by an upstart band. and they want to be looked at the same way as a legit labels like No Sleep, RFC, No Idea, Topshelf, Epitaph, Triple Crown, Equal Vision, FBR, P+P, etc. and they shouldnt be viewed the same. on the same hand as it's very easy to promote music because of everything at one's disposal with the internet age, that also breeds ease of starting a label that only licenses stuff. it's far to easy to email the label and/or artist who owns the rights to an album, get a yes or no answer, use kickstarter for all your funding or use pre-orders to get a good chunk. the ease of everything brings out the roaches.

that is exactly why people hate on labels who only license stuff. i'm not going to single out specific labels. i'm just quoting this to reference what was said not attack the person i'm quoting. they refuse to do the leg work that real labels do with new releases and working with new bands. part of the job is promoting your bands and spending money on that aspect on top of fronting the money for the physical product(s). nobody ever said running a label was easy or did not require a lot of work and money. in this day and age it's fairly easy to promote your bands and spend little money doing so so there is no excuse anymore for labels not to work with new bands.

gotta love people who buy stuff AND THEN do research into what they're buying

don't even bother. i barked up that tree several pages ago and it fell on deaf ears. people here just want to complain for the sake of complaining. the biggest thing here is people want shit for basically free, like the dude who wants 3 7"s for fucking $10.

this is why flippers exist

to play devils advocate here (which seems to be my thing now) with the pricing. not defending SRC, RJ, MTS, how expensive this is or was. wasnt the price when MTS was doing this around $40 for an LP and three 7"s before shipping? people are really that up in arms seeing as it's a $10 difference. with the 10% off thing it's only $5 more than what it was from MTS. has anyone considered production costs going up in the 1 1/2 years since the MTS pre-order. i'm guessing some of the guys who run labels here can speak of the cost of pressing records now vs almost 2 years ago. or is this just the perfect shit-storm of hating RJ, MTS, SRC and prices of higher than $10 for an LP and $5 for a 7" bubbling over into a Shaq filled hate party? again, not defending anything one way or the other. just trying to bring some logic in, which i know is impossible on VC.

how do you find the content lacking if people post pics of their complete collections? as monsterrod pointed out wouldnt you be able to see what that certain colored record you have your heart set on seeing looks like in a post that has pics of every fucking variant of said record. just search google images to see what moonbeam swirl with bloody stool splatter looks like instead of creating pointless duplicate threads here.

you clearly never looked in the other thread. it's exactly the same as this one minus the pointless "variant collecting is stupid" and "variant collecting is soooooooooooo expensive" banter. though that does happen in there from time to time. people post pics of their collections of one album plus an entire band and label and people have discussion.

that was the perfect storm for overcharging and seeing that it would work. if the first pressing didn't sell out, at least not as fast as it did, they might realize it was overpriced and lower it a bit for this pressing. but since a bunch of idiots eagerly took the wallet fucking, which resulted in 2 out of the 3 colors selling out in under 1 day, Spartan knows they could charge $35 for this pressing and sell all of them without a hiccup. perfect example of if you think the price is too high don't buy it. if enough people do that then the wallet rapers hand will be forced because they're just sitting on a product they can't move. unfortunately that will never happen though. it's not like Spartan are just idiots and overprice everything, they have that Anchor & Braille 7" up for $5 and a double LP for the same price they were selling the Mae record for which is a single LP. pricing the Mae record like they did was a calculated move because they're just greedy.

leave it to moonbeams to make yet another pointless, stupid thread. an exact copy of a thread that has been going strong for nearly 6 years and is almost 400 pages to boot.

you're talking about a label that charged $30 for this record with the last pressing. they'd rather press fewer copies and do multiple pressings to cash in on variant collectors.

as if there already wasn't enough reason to have gripes about this

are people forgetting that he already sold most of his coheed shit on ebay. http://boards.vinylcollective.com/topic/82958-ebay-coheed-in-keeping-secrets-4-variants/ so it's not like he didn't try to ebay route already, he's just greedy. this one didn't sell for high enough so he is trying to get what he wants for it ubt hoping for more through this lame raffle. dude only cares about money, which isnt a bad thing, but he is being a weasel about it trying to hide being a raffle because nobody will pay him 5 katrillion dollars for his record straight up. it also says a lot that the only people sticking up for this guy have entered the raffle or have 24 posts i get the "fair shot for everyone" deal, but it also says a lot that the he is allowing people who just joined a few days ago and/or have under 15 posts but have been regesitered for years.

what aspect of the VC community put this together? it's just one greedy weasle

this guy has annoyed people since day 1. he only joined this board to brag about his coheed collection then a few months later tried to sell all of it here for ridiculous prices. that failed. miserably. so he listed some of his copies of this album on ebay, and i guess he didn't get enough money for them so now he is raffling it off after seeing how succesful other people here were with it. he is just trying to weasle as much money as he can for this, plain and simple. while other people did raffles to donate some money to charities around the holidays or give money to the red cross for victims of hurricane sandy. it's also hilarious that all of the people who gave this guy money have under 15 posts (2 out of the four have 4 posts to their name) or joined two months ago

that's not true either.

bobloblaw's store takes flipping to a new level. but i guess it's ok by VC rules since he's a "good dude" because he gives people here good deals and volunteers to buy stuff for international folks, even though he buys shit from people here and turns around and immediately flips it in his store. hell he inspires people.

this is why i'm trying to fully wrap my head around everything so i have the whole picture. wouldnt that be where the opt out came in? people had a chance to get all their money back plus however many records came out. people are not just angry about Virgil using the co-op money however he pleased, people wanted the money left over upon the co-ops demise divided up amongst the co-op members?

just playing devils advocate here and trying to fully understand everything. i remember a lot about the co-op but not sure of some of the finer print details. in no way am i defending Virgil. and i don't have a horse in this race either so i'm not bitter about not getting my money back. and for the record it's awesome that Mike T finally got his $60 after all this time. wasn't the deal with the co-op $60 from 200 people as per what someone said in this thread earlier? members got to vote for the releases (no guarantee a release would be something everyone would like or you personally would like or want), members got an exclusive color that was limited to 200 while the other color was /800 or somewhere around there, definitely way higher than 200. and wasnt it said up front that there would be a guaranteed 4 releases through the co-op and everything after that would be gravy? all the profit would be put back into the co-op to fund future releases, so the co-op would be self funding after the initial investment from the 200 members. if those 4 releases happened, which they did according to what someone posted a few pages back, didn't everyone get their investment back? the $60 turned into 4 $15 records everyone. so there should be no issues with people being angry about not getting their initial investment back since there was a return. i get that the money wasn't left in the co-op and Virgil used the money elsewhere, which is one of the things a lot of people are angry over. the not paying people back (strictly co-op speaking, not money Virgil owes to labels) problem only lies with the people who chose one of opt out choices correct? and eventually how he chose to spend money on craft beer bus tours when he still owed money to co-op members. am i missing anything?

why can't you relax

the picture disc did not come sealed