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    PO: Taylor Swift - 'Lover' - Out on 8/23 (2xLP out on 11/15) / Right Now: "ME!" 7" Single

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    She didn’t mind using a ton of the labels money before she was a star to record, tour and see her music promoted. The label made a smart investment and now she is basically saying that since the label wont just “be nice to her” and let her have her masters that they’re “bullying” her. Meanwhile, her narrative has sparked uninformed people to ACTUALLY bully people. 

     

    Terrible look for her and another L in her cringeworthy album promotion..then again were talking about her so maybe it’s a W after all....

    RSD 2019 Limited and First Releases

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    2 minutes ago, unknown pleasures said:

    I get your argument and totally understand the other side of the coin. I mean, it obviously wouldn’t be the success it is without the scarcity factor thrown in. But taking that to the next level, what’s the deal with all the releases that no one wants, sitting around gathering dust until they’re marked down during the next Black Friday event? Why is some stuff pressed way under demand and other stuff - often times stuff no one is even asking for in the first place - pressed in abundance? Why not make everything a pain in the ass to acquire and change the name to Flipper Appreciation Day, which is only a few degrees from what it already is?

     

    To my point, this past RSD I went to one of my favorite local shops around noon to see if a rare used arrival they posted on Instagram earlier that week was still available. They weren’t officially participating in RSD and had none of the exclusives, and when I walked in there was literally one other person flipping through the bins. Normally the place is pretty busy on a Saturday afternoon. How do shops like that feel about Record Store Day? Shouldn’t it be called Record Stores Who Buy Exclusives Offered And Distributed By The Coalition Of Independent Music Stores Day?

     

    I’ll admit a lot of the points I’m making are a little tongue in cheek. I stand in line and buy exclusives like everyone else here, and I know the stores that do participate in the event have a great time, both with the day itself and with their bottom line. It just feels like as the “holiday” has grown in scale and popularity, the organizers are having a hard time staying true to their indie roots while catering to the larger shops and major labels, and a lot of fans are suffering in the end.

     

    I may be completely wrong, but I just don’t think when the idea for RSD was originally being throw together, folks camping out the night before at Amoeba waiting to buy a 3” record player so they won’t have to shell out triple the retail price for it on eBay was what they had in mind. 

    I understand your point and your tongue in cheek points cracked me up because there's something to it. Flippers will always cause a good amount of RSD frustration and I have FOR SURE had my share of salty RSDs lol. The Amoeba line up starting 5PM the night before is completely mind-blowing, but I think the people that do that enjoy it. There must be stores at least somewhat nearby with good amount of stock that a person can get in line 3 hrs before open and get their stuff. A good amount of the time "RSD Exclusive" ends up not even being truthful (stares at my numbered copy of Gorillaz-The Fall from RSD 2011). 

     

    Funny you say that because this year I waited in line at a shop that had a good selection, but about 3 miles down the road, theres another shop who didn't participate. Its his first full year in business so he didn't sign the petition etc in time, but he still posted HAPPY RSD on his instagram and had sandwiches and cookies and stuff out so I went over there....not a single person there, sandwiches just sitting there and the dude just looking deflated. We chatted a bunch, and he was a little bummed, but he also gets that people print out these lists months in advance and salivate over these releases so it is what it is. But its 100% not a holiday of TRUE bin flipping and buying records in terms of what we do the other 364 days of the year. 

     

    We agree it's far from perfect, but the end of the day, in my opinion at least, when you take the good with the bad, it's still a rad day.

    RSD 2019 Limited and First Releases

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    11 hours ago, unknown pleasures said:

    To me, Lost in Translation and The Crow symbolize everything wrong with RSD.

     

    In the case of the former, you have an incredibly sought after, long out of print record that commanded $200+ on the secondary market. Surely those were clues they could have flooded the market with as many as they could press and still sold them?

     

    As for The Crow, it had never been released on vinyl and is chock full of those 90s buzz bands that the vast majority of middle-aged men leading the “vinyl revival” crave. Practically anyone you surveyed would mention it as one of the top 2 or 3 releases of the day, whether they were personally interested in it or not; I’m sure they could have done a better job of meeting the strong demand, which came as a surprise to no one.

     

    Instead they just feed the RSD hysteria that will cause more people to camp out overnight at Amoeba/Bullmoose/Rough Trade/etc next year. I guess there’s no such thing as bad press...

    I agree and disagree here. Sure they could make more, but isn’t the limited nature what makes it fun for most of people who love RSD? People look forward to camping out, making lists, taking friends and meeting nee people in line and seeing what they get.

     

    If everyone knew they could get everything they wanted, would they still care about RSD and these releases? Or say “$40 for a 20 year old soundtrack? Ill wait til its on clearance on Amazon..”

     

    At the end of the day, most all of this music can be heard practically free through streaming or buying a used cd for $2(no one listens to ONLY vinyl)..but exclusive limited vinyl is what makes this fun. Its an impulsive, irresponsible, anxious, frustrating, and hopefully really satisfying day for people to share.

     

    And its fun to miss something limited and have a new “grail” to seek out or trade for.

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