piaptk Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Check out this Six "sided" record I just made. 5 holes... 2 grooves around the outside (middle hole), and a Venn Diagram of groove on each side (rotated 90 degrees on the B-side). This is by far my favorite record I've ever made. It is the product of many hours of experimentation, measurements, blind luck, and dumb jokes being made real by sheer force of will. This is, however, no longer a joke. This is a real 5 holed record that plays. This Six "Sided" 10" record is composed of six distinct groove rings. Each side has a Venn Diagram of Groove in the middle and a short ring on the outside of the 10". As the grooves of the Venn Diagram cross, they make a little chirping sound. They will usually not skip, but you may need to adjust your tonearm weight and anti-skating a little. Dimitri specifically composed a 16 minute sound collage with this chirp in mind. Each Great Six Sider 10" is somewhat unique, in that the rings were cut using an unspecific portion of Dimtri's composition and were then locked off into locked grooves when the ring ends. No rings or locked grooves are the same. Buy them at: www.PIAPTK.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticgoat Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Saw this earlier and thought it was an awesome concept. If I have some spare cash I'll be sure to pick it up some time, probably along with the Floating Action album. Then I just gotta wait for Scott's solo album and my life might become complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piaptk Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 We just got the master for Scott's record... It's an older, "lost" solo album called IT. We placed the order today.. so it could be out around November-ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idreamofpunk Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Gott DAMN... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natenomm Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 This thing is absolutely nuts. It's gonna be hard to say no to this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBarry Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Damn I'll probably pick this up because this shit is nuts haha. So it's a name your own price record? Edit: Nevermind just saw the minimum is $34.99...hmm maybe I'll have to hold off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warmhouses Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 this feels sketchy. would be interested to see a video of someone tryna play this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brillwill Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 man was about to instabuy but the price is holding me back. anyone else grab it yet? is there an audio sample? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacredheart Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 40 bucks for 6 songs and they may or may not skip in certain spots? No thank you. throwgncpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southern Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 That's fancy, but needlessly so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 would love to, but...no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seangj Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 would love to, but...no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piaptk Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 This is a completely hand-made art record guys. It is not a mass-produced industrial product. Needlessly fancy, definitely. And you haven't seen anything yet... my next several are needlessly fancier. And I know it's expensive, but it's expensive and time consuming to make. The breakdown: $3.50 worth of plastic, the time to route out the disc on a circle jig, drill the holes, $4.50 for a full color 11x17" transparency, $1 for a picture disc sleeve, Paypal fees + Online Store costs = $1.50ish. Plus the time to make them (about 45 minutes each to prep the disc, cut them, flip them, clean them up, package them in the sleeve, process orders, mail them, etc etc. ), plus add 1/3 to the total for the cost of the free copies given to the artist which I never see a dime for. . So, when it comes down to it, I am essentially making far less than half the hourly wage I used to make as a high school teacher to make these. Maybe $15/hr (that I use to feed/clothe/house myself, my wife, and 3 year old daughter), not accounting for all the time and money I've spent on buying and learning how to use the specialized equipment required to produce these. I can certainly sympathize if $35 is out of your price range for a weirdo art record by a band you may have never heard of, but please understand the reasoning behind the price. If Jack White can sell an industrial mass-produced product for $200 a piece, I feel like my asking $35 for a labor intensive, hand-made record is not that far out of line. The Vool and TheEnigmyst 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsWetWilly Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Definitely not an extraordinary price for the time and effort going in, but out of my price range. Awesome idea, though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticgoat Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 People bitch anytime a record costs more than $12. I think $35 is reasonable for something with this amount of effort put into it. I might be biased since I love the shit out of Dr. Dog and everyone in that band though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBarry Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I totally would pick this up but for now I can't get something for this price that's all I meant. With that said I totally factored in this isn't mass produced and was probably a bitch to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piaptk Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 BallisticGoat: Keep an eye out, I've got lots of Dr. Dog related stuff coming down the pipe. Re: Skipping: If you have a decent turntable that has a tonearm weight adjustments, these won't skip. Only people with $50 Crosleys may (or may not) have problems... I don't have a Crosley to test it on, but they play fine on my old Elementary School Califone from the 60s. Re: Price... I really had no idea how well these would sell, and I wanted to pay myself at least minimum wage to make a few vs selling them super cheap and selling a whole bunch that I just lost money on. I didn't necessarily limit the quantity initially, but from current sales, I doubt I'll make or sell more than about 50-75. Honestly, I was hoping this was at least weird enough to go viral and have people see it, but since I'm not already a wealthy rock star, I'm probably permanently relegated to the "obscure eccentric" category I've been in for the last 8 years of my label making X-Ray Records (before that other guy), Laserdisc Records, CD-Records, Transperency picture discs, weird shaped records, Chocolate Records, etc etc... Obscure Eccentric is pretty decent title, though. If you at least appreciate the idea behind this record, and would post it on your social media, whatever, it would be greatly appreciated. My next release in this series has a much better chance of breaking through, as it is a collaboration between two well-known, world renown musicians, and the format is even freakier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piaptk Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Oh, and WARMHOUSES: here is a video of it being played. It's totally not sketchy,. warmhouses 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBarry Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 A buddy of mine is a Dr. Dog fan and saw them recently in Philly so I passed the word on to him. How many did you make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piaptk Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 I made 50 to start out with. May make more, may not. It's not exactly a record I plan on keeping in print forever. I've got a ton of other weird stuff in the queue that I need to get to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBarry Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I definitely like weird stuff when it comes to records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsWetWilly Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 That looks pretty awesome. I will say that these DEFINITELY won't play on a Crosley. Too bad for them. Haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacredheart Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I never questioned the price being too high for what it cost to make, but that when it comes down to it, it is six songs by a guy in a band we like, but no idea if this is going to sound like Dr. Dog or something all together different and not good, and for that I think the price is too high for me to spend on it. If I knew what the songs were, or had a stream of them then it might push me into buying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piaptk Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 Oh, the audio for this was recorded specifically to fit this medium. It is a 16 min sound collage piece recorded to work in any length segments and to fit the chirp that happens whenever the grooves cross each other (not very pronounced on the second ring cut). It's not a group of "songs" as you might expect. It's a conceptual art record, really. A Bunch of intentionally arranged beats and sound effects. But, if you are into the "song" type of stuff from the Dr Dog crew, between PIAPTK And Soild Gold (the label I run that is curated Dimtri from Dr Dog), we have some weirdness and rarities coming down the pipe very soon.... On a side note one of my lathes is named Townes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 So this is for ART, and not the music is what I'm getting from you. Truthfully, I watched your video and Ii clearly states that anyone who purchases one of these should have at least a 1 inch clearance. My turntable doesn't have that. So why the hell would I buy this if I can't even play it? Plus from the video, the audio just sounds like noises. Those two things are why I am not buying it. Yeah the concept is neat but the execution is flawed. It's not practical, it's a gimmick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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